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Feb 09 2017

The rumour is confirmed, following the lifting of 4Music’s encryption earlier this week; the popular music channel launches on Freesat, channel 509.

4Music has been long awaited and demanded by Freesat customers (since the launch of Freesat back in 2008), so it is great to finally see it break from encryption and become available to all (and one less channel Freeview has that we don’t!)

Matt Rennie, Managing Director at The Box Plus Network, said:

We’re pretty excited to bring our leading youth channel 4Music into Freesat homes, offering up great music, comedy, reality and entertainment shows. It’s particularly good timing just days before our UK premiere of The Grammys.

69 Responses to “4Music joins Freesat”

  1. Ronnie Says:

    Thanks been saved 4 music available Freesat happy working now.

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  2. jonathan mccabe Says:

    Home channel should be next by the end of 2017 when its encryption ends with Sky TV

    Dave channel won’t come to Freesat

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  3. Dan Says:

    I think this is really good for freesat, again closing the gap to freeview. Also it usually shows C4 comedy in the evenings e.g. 8 out of 10 cats. This should add something to freesat rather than just another music channel.

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  4. Tim Says:

    Matt Rennie said:
    “We’re pretty excited to bring our leading youth channel 4Music into Freesat homes, offering up great music, comedy, reality and entertainment shows. It’s particularly good timing just days before our UK premiere of The Grammys.”

    I regard this as excellent news since it strengthens the Freesat channel line up and it shows that the Channel 4 group does have a commitment to Freesat.

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  5. stonedimmaculate1962 Says:

    Not my cup of tea. More channels the better though. Would be nice to have a more mature music TV channel, like Indie/Britpop. Yes we do have Vintage but the picture quality is so poor.

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  6. Phil Wood Says:

    Good news, but shame it’s not HD :o(

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  7. Neil Says:

    jonathan mccabe said:
    Home channel should be next by the end of 2017 when its encryption ends with Sky TV
    Dave channel won’t come to Freesat

    Never say never Jonathan… things move quickly in this industry and you never know what is around the corner!

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  8. scott Says:

    Good news that 4 music has joined freesat but why have they took the box music channel off. Hope freesat continues to get better this year.

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  9. spikeeastyorks Says:

    all good news but we have lost Keep It Country on 516. Big shame.

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  10. ggopher Says:

    The list of channels in the channel list is incorrect !

    It;s been updated for Viva, but its still showing the 400’s series of channels, and the Children’s channels names are incorrect .

    Not sure if there’s any more.

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  11. ggopher Says:

    ggopher said:
    The list of channels in the channel list is incorrect !
    It;s been updated for Viva, but its still showing the 400’s series of channels, and the Children’s channels names are incorrect .
    Not sure if there’s any more.

    yes there’s more – Keep it country has left, BBC i player on 901 has left, …..

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  12. Paul Ryan Says:

    Keep em coming!
    As Sky Subscription numbers start to decline they can’t afford to keep bribing these channels to stay off freesat forever!

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  13. Ronnie Says:

    Sky And Freesat work together in 2020
    Last old NTL: Telewest cable a long time.

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  14. Tim Says:

    Paul Ryan said:
    Keep em coming!
    As Sky Subscription numbers start to decline they can’t afford to keep bribing these channels to stay off freesat forever!

    @Paul, I think that Sky’s annual price rises to fund their Premiership football rights will keep on producing converts for Freesat. Similarly, the mobile phone providers are eating away at Freeview’s spectrum so that will produce more Freesat converts who wish to get away from a declining Freeview service.

    In effect, Freesat will effectively get guaranteed growth over the next few years.

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  15. Chris S Says:

    Tim said: @Paul, I think that Sky’s annual price rises to fund their Premiership football rights will keep on producing converts for Freesat. Similarly, the mobile phone providers are eating away at Freeview’s spectrum so that will produce more Freesat converts who wish to get away from a declining Freeview service.
    In effect, Freesat will effectively get guaranteed growth over the next few years.

    Maybe those who’ve got a basic Sky service, but Sky Q, network viewing and recording, UHD….people will find it hard to move to Freesat after that even if Sky is expensive.

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  16. Paul. The other one. Says:

    True Crime+1 on 152 is not on the EPG or the schedule at freesat.co.uk/tvguide any more. Think it’s happened in the last day or so, or have I missed something?

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  17. Paul. The other one. Says:

    Confirmed, True Crime+1 has left both Freesat and Sky.

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  18. Neil Says:

    Chris S said: Maybe those who’ve got a basic Sky service, but Sky Q, network viewing and recording, UHD….people will find it hard to move to Freesat after that even if Sky is expensive.

    I was chatting to someone yesterday, totally unconnected to the broadcast industry and works in Telecom’s, told me he’s had Sky from the analogue outset but recently cancelled the lot and hasn’t looked back!

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  19. JJ Says:

    Neil said: I was chatting to someone yesterday, totally unconnected to the broadcast industry and works in Telecom’s, told me he’s had Sky from the analogue outset but recently cancelled the lot and hasn’t looked back!

    I am the same had Sky since the 90’s. We went Freesat and bolted on Netflix via Freetime, saved over £50 per month and never looked back. Sky Q doesn’t interest me. Im sure I read on this very forum UHD it only available on the higher packs anyway.

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  20. Neil Says:

    JJ said: I am the same had Sky since the 90’s. We went Freesat and bolted on Netflix via Freetime, saved over £50 per month and never looked back. Sky Q doesn’t interest me. Im sure I read on this very forum UHD it only available on the higher packs anyway.

    Yep, we’ve got Netflix via an app on our Freesat Panasonic TV’s and it offers the average viewer a good alternative to paying through the nose with Sky. It does surprise me the more people I’m hearing who are long term Sky subscribers and dumping the platform, not necessarily for Freesat but a combination of FTA and streamed services which deliver what the average viewer wants.

    Long term IP delivery is how all TV will likely go and Sky need to realise that in the IP world they are smaller fish in a bigger pond.

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  21. davemurgatroyd Says:

    So Freesat gains 4Music but loses The Box from Box Plus Metworks. So zero gain on this one.

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  22. mike65 Says:

    Just a word for euro-cinema slot on Showcase, it’s now two feature films every night 9 PM and 1 AM with shorts from 11 to midnight, they seem to be taking the enterprise seriously as judged by next weeks schedule. Not out of copyright rubbish but an eclectic selection of titles

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  23. Shane Says:

    davemurgatroyd said:
    So Freesat gains 4Music but loses The Box from Box Plus Metworks. So zero gain on this one.

    I wasn’t aware the box had encrypted again. If it’s not, can you just manually tune it in?

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  24. Paul. The other one. Says:

    The Box is still FTA. For manual tuning the parameters are:

    12304, H, 27500, 5/6, DVB-S, QPSK.

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  25. ggopher Says:

    ggopher said: yes there’s more – Keep it country has left, BBC i player on 901 has left, …..

    ggopher said:
    The list of channels in the channel list is incorrect !
    It;s been updated for Viva, but its still showing the 400’s series of channels

    a week after mentioning that tbe channel list is incorrect – it still hasnt been updated.

    Any reason in why its be left out of date ?

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  26. Paul. The other one. Says:

    Freesat say that Keep It Country will return to 516 on 28th Feb.

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  27. ggopher Says:

    Paul. The other one. said:
    Freesat say that Keep It Country will return to 516 on 28th Feb.

    According to the channel list on this site – it’s still there !

    but then the channel list does has at least six errors (channels moved, renamed, epg no. change) – maybe it wasn’t removed when Keep it Country left earlier.

    If a list is going to be made available, then it needs to be updated to reflect the current channel lineup.

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  28. Ian Vallender Says:

    jonathan mccabe said:
    Home channel should be next by the end of 2017 when its encryption ends with Sky TV
    Dave channel won’t come to Freesat

    Both Dave and Home are from UKTV so never say never!

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  29. Rick Says:

    I’ve had to leave freesat and gone to youview but I’ll definitely be back if they get Dave and home channels and maybe a few others

    There’s a new quest red channel coming in march don’t think freesat will get this either. :-( sad times.

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  30. JJ Says:

    Rick said:
    I’ve had to leave freesat and gone to youview but I’ll definitely be back if they get Dave and home channels and maybe a few others
    There’s a new quest red channel coming in march don’t think freesat will get this either. sad times.

    Problem is Sky has the monopoly on satellite and dictates the status quo. Its a shame as Freesat is far superior in quality to Freeview in my humble.

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  31. Neil Says:

    JJ said: Problem is Sky has the monopoly on satellite and dictates the status quo. Its a shame as Freesat is far superior in quality to Freeview in my humble.

    They dictate the status quo by paying bucket loads of dosh to broadcasters to keep their channels, particularly the HD versions of, behind paywalls. If that money was taken away then they’d go FTA tomorrow!

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  32. Paul. The other one. Says:

    In case the reinstatement has been missed by people who used to view the channel, Keep It Country returned to 516 on Tuesday as planned.

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  33. ggopher Says:

    ggopher said: According to the channel list on this site – it’s still there !
    but then the channel list does has at least six errors (channels moved, renamed, epg no. change) – maybe it wasn’t removed when Keep it Country left earlier.
    If a list is going to be made available, then it needs to be updated to reflect the current channel lineup.

    Can only assume the information on this website is no longer being updated !

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  34. Rick Says:

    Quest red comes on freeview on Wednesday I’m sure freesat won’t get this either…. not sure who goes looking for channels…

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  35. mike65 Says:

    Rick said:
    Quest red comes on freeview on Wednesday I’m sure freesat won’t get this either…. not sure who goes looking for channels…

    No one goes looking for channels – channels go to freesat.

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  36. JJ Says:

    No Quest Red Stickview, Sly and Wire only. Very sad that Freest is screwed over once again by an over domineering satellite operator.

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  37. Dipper Says:

    Nobody’s being screwed over. Channels make commercial decisions. If you want all these extra lovely channels all you have to do is pay for them!

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  38. Jack Says:

    Freeview adds another HD channel, colors tv, and two sd channels,CBS action + 1 and Quest Red all in one day.

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  39. JJ Says:

    Dipper said:
    Nobody’s being screwed over. Channels make commercial decisions. If you want all these extra lovely channels all you have to do is pay for them!

    They are free on other platforms. Thats the point.

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  40. Dipper Says:

    JJ said: They are free on other platforms. Thats the point.

    I realise that. I live in a minimum channels Freeview area & would like to see all that is on full Freeview available on Freesat but I still think being “screwed over” is a bit harsh. I believe I get very good value for money, £0.00 per month on top of the licence fee, which all of us telly watchers have to pay.

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  41. Neil Says:

    Jack said:
    Freeview adds another HD channel, colors tv, and two sd channels,CBS action + 1 and Quest Red all in one day.

    Colors HD does exist on Satellite, it would be easy to add this to Freesat if the broadcaster wishes as it’s HD version is FTA. If Chellozone/CBS acquire an EPG slot on Sky’s platform then they’ll likely launch CBS Action +1 on Satellite (which does not exist on DSAT whatsoever), then likely add this to Freesat too. Quest Red is on DSAT but pay – disappointed Discovery haven’t made this FTA but there could be good reason it has remained pay contractually.

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  42. Rick Says:

    Anything new coming ? Please

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  43. Lawrence Peare Says:

    Off topic, but finally some news: there’s a new Humax Freeway box announced today – the £99 HB1100S!

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  44. Paul. The other one. Says:

    Spike +1 could be on the way. It’s been added to Channel 5’s transponder, 10964 H 22000 5/6.

    It’s currently named 7731 rather than Spike +1 and is FTA at this time.

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  45. ggopher Says:

    http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/freesat-channels/ is showing a list of channels that is out of date !!

    Why hasn’t this been updated ?

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  46. me Says:

    ggopher said:
    http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/freesat-channels/ is showing a list of channels that is out of date !!
    Why hasn’t this been updated ?

    Just look here: http://www.freesat.co.uk/channels

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  47. Rick17 Says:

    Hi
    Just seen today sky have agreed a new deal for uktv and are adding uktv play to sky box and now tv box this year hopefully this will have some sort of deal for few new channels to join freesat hopefully what do you think …

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  48. Paul. The other one. Says:

    Rick17 said:
    ….. hopefully this will have some sort of deal for few new channels to join freesat hopefully what do you think …

    A deal for Play struck between UKTV and Sky will not bring any positive changes to the channels that UKTV choose to transmit FTA. Why should it? Sky pay UKTV to carry their channels encrypted, and in my view adding Play to the deal doesn’t make it any more likely that UKTV will step away from the encryption contract any further than they already have. Sky makes it’s money from subscriptions so it is in Sky’s interest to retain satellite exclusivity to drive customer acquisition and retention, not give it away.

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  49. ggopher Says:

    Rick17 said:
    Hi
    Just seen today sky have agreed a new deal for uktv and are adding uktv play to sky box and now tv box this year hopefully this will have some sort of deal for few new channels to join freesat hopefully what do you think …

    where did you see this ? Now TV are saying “At this moment in time there’s no detailed information about regarding the announcement…”

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  50. Rick17 Says:

    ggopher said: where did you see this ? Now TV are saying “At this moment in time there’s no detailed information about regarding the announcement…”

    It’s here and full storey is on A516….

    The deal with UKTV for the arrival of UKTV’s on-demand service UKTV Play on Sky and Now TV this year, which will give Sky and Now TV subscribers access to on-demand and catch-up TV content from TV channels including Dave, Really and Drama.

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  51. Rick17 Says:

    Are we in for a quiet year freesat..,.,

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  52. mike65 Says:

    Rick17 said:
    Are we in for a quiet year freesat..,.,

    Yep! Spike +1 should join at some point no doubt if that’s any help!

    You reach a point where bar a few odds and sods around the high number margins every channel is where it wants to be and there’s little further movement. A mature market.

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  53. Lee Says:

    mike65 said: Yep! Spike +1 should join at some point no doubt if that’s any help!
    You reach a point where bar a few odds and sods around the high number margins every channel is where it wants to be and there’s little further movement. A mature market.

    Yep I don’t know what else people think is out there left to join.
    We all know the ones we would like which are on Freeview are tied into contracts and won’t be joining.
    That leaves what? Half a dozen or so music channels and free to air foreign or foreign language channels?

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  54. Paul. The other one. Says:

    Rick17 said:
    Are we in for a quiet year freesat..,.,

    There was talk last year that the BBC’s internet-delivered 4K channel was due to start before the upcoming Wimbledon grunt-fest, so if that’s still happening I would hope there’s a new Freesat box with 4K decoder waiting in the wings. No doubt it’ll be a Humax if there is a Freesat 4K box to be announced in the next month or so.

    The BBC’s gone a bit quiet on the 4K front since the test using the 4 minute Planet Earth 2 clip that was available through iPlayer. Wimbledon starts 3rd July this year, so let’s hope the BBC, Freesat and the box manufacturer have managed to keep any 4K developments tightly under wraps rather than it being quiet on the news front because there’s no news at all!

    Perhaps more apps will come to the newer Freesat boxes and TVs – Twitter and Facebook for example. They’re both getting into video in a big way. For example the PGA Golf Tour streams a couple of hours of the early Thursday and Friday play on Twitter from every tournament. And this morning Twitter and Bloomberg announced that from the autumn a 24-hour news channel (different from the broadcast channel) will be streamed via Twitter.

    On the other hand it might just be a quiet year coming up.

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  55. Jacck Says:

    Paul. The other one. said: There was talk last year that the BBC’s internet-delivered 4K channel was due to start before the upcoming Wimbledon grunt-fest, so if that’s still happening I would hope there’s a new Freesat box with 4K decoder waiting in the wings.No doubt it’ll be a Humax if there is a Freesat 4K box to be announced in the next month or so.
    The BBC’s gone a bit quiet on the 4K front since the test using the 4 minute Planet Earth 2 clip that was available through iPlayer.Wimbledon starts 3rd July this year, so let’s hope the BBC, Freesat and the box manufacturer have managed to keep any 4K developments tightly under wraps rather than it being quiet on the news front because there’s no news at all!
    Perhaps more apps will come to the newer Freesat boxes and TVs – Twitter and Facebook for example.They’re both getting into video in a big way.For example the PGA Golf Tour streams a couple of hours of the early Thursday and Friday play on Twitter from every tournament.And this morning Twitter and Bloomberg announced that from the autumn a 24-hour news channel (different from the broadcast channel) will be streamed via Twitter.
    On the other hand it might just be a quiet year coming up.

    Quiet? The silence is deafening! 4K Wimbledon? Maybe streamed on Sky etc and 4k TVs,but a freesat 4k box ain’t happening for a long time . The market is far to tiny for humax or freesat to invest in 4k tech. Freesat has peaked I’m afraid. Don’t expect anything in the way of new channels or new technology .

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  56. stonedimmaculate62 Says:

    Lack of posts from admin is concerning. I have not visited here for a while knowing I’ve not missed much regards to posts. Hello Admin, are you still with us.

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  57. admin Says:

    stonedimmaculate62 said:
    Lack of posts from admin is concerning. I have not visited here for a while knowing I’ve not missed much regards to posts.Hello Admin, are you still with us.

    Thanks for the concern, still here, just very little news from Freesat and not a lot else I can review! The satellite industry as a whole is lacking any movement now; the technology just isn’t going anywhere and broadcasters are not investing as much as they use to into television via traditional methods!

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  58. lawrence pearce Says:

    Unlike some posters on this site, I still believe Freesat has a healthy future. It serves a vital role providing a good choice of UK TV viewing for those unable to receive Freeview (or the full Freeview service) – plus it offers a slightly different and more comprehensive channel lineup from its terrestrial counterpart. And let’s not also forget that every Freesat receiver has a non freesat mode which allows even greater choice of some of free channels for those who want to explore. Freesat is now a mature platform so further growth is unlikely, but that said (although not widely advertised) it is now a standard feature of many of the larger size LG and Samsung TVs and Humax has recently launched its new HB1100S non recording stb. If the platform had no future, these manufacturers would not continue to support it.

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  59. admin Says:

    lawrence pearce said:
    Unlike some posters on this site, I still believe Freesat has a healthy future. It serves a vital role providing a good choice of UK TV viewing for those unable to receive Freeview (or the full Freeview service) – plus it offers a slightly different and more comprehensive channellineup from its terrestrial counterpart. And let’s not also forget that every Freesat receiver has a non freesat mode which allowseven greater choice of some of free channels for those who want to explore. Freesat is now amature platform so further growth is unlikely, but that said (although not widely advertised)it is now a standard feature of many of the larger size LG and Samsung TVs and Humax has recently launched its new HB1100S non recording stb. If the platform had no future, these manufacturers would not continue to support it.

    Absolutely, Freesat still offers a vital role and a great option. There is just no technological movement within the industry as a whole now, not just Freesat, which makes creating news difficult. It is worth pointing out though that only Humax are supporting this; all others have either pulled away, or cannot seem to get a product to market, despite there being room for a low cost HD zapper option.

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  60. Jacck Says:

    Maybe a multi tuner stb with similar features to sky q would be a good idea. Most freesat users are ex sky customers. Swapping from sky to freesat was simply a case of swapping boxes. Now newer sky customers would need to swap out the lnb as well as the box,taking away the plug and play option for those seeking a cheaper alternative. Can’t help but feel that is going to dent the take up of freesat in the future. Freeview is getting yet another frequency shake up in the next few years. But it continues to be most people’s first choice for FTA TV.

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  61. Itisme Says:

    I can’t help but think that maybe Freesat should have or still can, include FTV channels along with FTA channels, They could easily launch a box that can get both FTA & FTV channels in one EPG, cards can be issued or they could invest in a scramble/secure service attached to each box for the FTA channels.

    Some extra On Demand services can help, for example: UKTV Play, YouTube Kids, Sony Kids On Demand (Pop, Kix etc), Box+, Quest On Demand, Milkshake.

    To help get the extra Freeview channels they could add TVPlayer (with plus so could get some sub channels).

    As they have Netflix, why not try and get Amazon Prime, even BT Sports for those that have it free or a sub.

    There is still so much they can do, I think focusing on On Demand/ Catch UP TV could be one way for them to move forward to add much more content.

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  62. n2u Says:

    admin said: Thanks for the concern, still here, just very little news from Freesat and not a lot else I can review!

    Then could you please take a look at your RSS feed which does not seem to work anymore. I tried to reach your webmaster via the contact form but the RSS feed still is unreachable.

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  63. admin Says:

    n2u said: Then could you please take a look at your RSS feed which does not seem to work anymore. I tried to reach your webmaster via the contact form but the RSS feed still is unreachable.

    Tried but failed, the RSS feed just stopped working one day, and despite trying absolutely everything, Feedburner (now Google) cannot find the account that held the subscribers. We will have to introduce a new one and start from scratch which is super annoying!

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  64. stonedimmaculate62 Says:

    Thanks for the reply admin.Though Freesat is still in my opinion a good free satellite platform apart from the lack of interesting programs (with the exception to the BBC series Taboo) or perhaps just not my cup of tea. Myself and the rest of the family watch 95% Netflix now. With top quality series like Bloodline,The Get Down, Expanse, Nobel, Touch, 12 Monkeys, Grimm any many more to name, and there’s always new stuff coming on every week, including some good films.

    My TV license runs out February next year and I’m considering not to renew it. Get rid of the Freesat box, dish and aerial. Got a new smart TV last year and never bothered to tune in all the Freeview channels. Will see next year.

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  65. admin Says:

    Think you might still need a tv license to watch Netflix though!

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  66. stonedimmaculate1962 Says:

    admin said:
    Think you might still need a tv license to watch Netflix though!

    admin said:
    Think you might still need a tv license to watch Netflix though!

    admin said:
    Think you might still need a tv license to watch Netflix though!

    From the BBC TV licensing website page.

    Do I need a TV License to watch subscription services like Netflix, Amazon or Now TV?

    You don’t need a TV License if you only ever use these services to watch on demand or catch up programmes except if you’re watching BBC programmes on iPlayer.
    Remember, if you watch or record live TV on any device, you need to be covered by a TV License.

    Live TV means any programme you watch or record at the same time as it’s being shown on TV or live on an online TV service.

    Pay for a TV Licence

    Or let us know you don’t need a TV Licence.

    Find out more about when you need a TV Licence.

    We never watch any live BBC TV/ iPlayer or other channels on our computer including other devices. Only Netflix and other non license required streaming channels.

    Anyway, will see what happens when my license expires.

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  67. Neil Says:

    The £145.50 (now gone up a tad) is the best annual payment (for quality BBC TV) there is on the planet….

    Just go to America and watch some of the drivel they pipe out and you’ll see for yourself!

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  68. ggopher Says:

    admin said: Thanks for the concern, still here, just very little news from Freesat and not a lot else I can review!

    How about updating your website with correct information.

    http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/freesat-channels/ is still showing a list of incorrect channels !

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  69. admin Says:

    ggopher said: How about updating your website with correct information.
    http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/freesat-channels/ is still showing a list of incorrect channels !

    Should be up to date now

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