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		<title>By: Izi</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/9xm-and-9x-uk-join-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-3722</link>
		<dc:creator>Izi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More asian channels please for the millions of asians living in the UK who have switched from Sky(aka Bye Sky) to Freesat. 9X &amp; 9XM channels are very entertaining and are compared to expensive subscription channels like Zee TV. Keep it Freesat!!!!!!!!!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More asian channels please for the millions of asians living in the UK who have switched from Sky(aka Bye Sky) to Freesat. 9X &amp; 9XM channels are very entertaining and are compared to expensive subscription channels like Zee TV. Keep it Freesat!!!!!!!!!! <img src='http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Juan Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/9xm-and-9x-uk-join-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-3706</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel: &quot;(i don’t really care about bbc iplayer, as i can stream through my xbox 360 if i want to watch it on the big tv)&quot;

This is in general for everybody and in every forum. Your particular needs shouldn&#039;t be the important thing. Imagine Freesat getting a letter saying I dont need iPlayer because I can watch it on my computer....
I could say..More HD? I don&#039;t really care, I have a BlueRay player and a big collection of BlueRay discs...
So, not everybody has an Xbox360. I have a Wii and iPlayer for it is not very good. Having it on Freesat with a well designed application controlled with the remote would be better.

So back to my general point... the mayority don&#039;t really care about your particular case. Having iPlayer on Freesat is and added feature so it will always be welcome.

It´s like those who say they don&#039;t need proper bluetooth  on an iPhone because they don&#039;t have any bluetooth accesories. Or copy&amp;paste because they don&#039;t use it.... :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel: &#8220;(i don’t really care about bbc iplayer, as i can stream through my xbox 360 if i want to watch it on the big tv)&#8221;</p>
<p>This is in general for everybody and in every forum. Your particular needs shouldn&#8217;t be the important thing. Imagine Freesat getting a letter saying I dont need iPlayer because I can watch it on my computer&#8230;.<br />
I could say..More HD? I don&#8217;t really care, I have a BlueRay player and a big collection of BlueRay discs&#8230;<br />
So, not everybody has an Xbox360. I have a Wii and iPlayer for it is not very good. Having it on Freesat with a well designed application controlled with the remote would be better.</p>
<p>So back to my general point&#8230; the mayority don&#8217;t really care about your particular case. Having iPlayer on Freesat is and added feature so it will always be welcome.</p>
<p>It´s like those who say they don&#8217;t need proper bluetooth  on an iPhone because they don&#8217;t have any bluetooth accesories. Or copy&amp;paste because they don&#8217;t use it&#8230;. <img src='http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Whitfield</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/9xm-and-9x-uk-join-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Whitfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with access to the iPlayer from other platforms is that they haven&#039;t necessarily been designed with IPTV capabilities from the off. Sure, there&#039;s an ethernet port on the SkyHD boxes, but unless and until Sky makes that available, iPlayer won&#039;t happen on that platform.

Freesat boxes have to have the ethernet port as part of the spec, and the interactive MHEG has enhancements to use it. I suspect that that will be used to drive the iPlayer on the platform - launch via the red button on a BBC channel, and then the MHEG can request the streams via the ethernet port.

Sky boxes use OpenTV; so a different app would have to be written. And the ethernet port would need to be enabled for that too. That&#039;s even assuming the version of OpenTV supports the appropriate protocols to access whatever will be serving the iPlayer streams.

What if it doesn&#039;t? Should the BBC spend license payer&#039;s money to get the firmware in Sky boxes updated, so they can access iPlayer? Will Sky pay for the upgrades, so that the BBC can deliver an application on their platform (and Sky dragging their heels on interactive stuff was one reason cited for Freesat, don&#039;t forget!).

I don&#039;t actually think the Trust will need to approve iPlayer for Freesat anyway; iPlayer has approval, and this is just another platform. They didn&#039;t have to get approval for adding it to iPhone, or N96, or Wii, after all.

The BBC remains platform neutral, in that it doesn&#039;t necessarily favour one platform over another - but that doesn&#039;t mean that it can&#039;t exploit the features of one or another. Nor does it mean they have to work to the lowest common denominator. So, there are more news multiscreens and more interactive sports on satellite than on Freeview, for instance. 

If the Sky platform has the abilities to do iPlayer, then in time, they&#039;ll probably roll it out. But I wouldn&#039;t expect them to do that until Sky has updated the boxes to enable the appropriate functionality, which they&#039;ll likely only do a) if they feel they&#039;re losing people by not having iPlayer or b) if they launch something similar of their own.

In the short term at least, iPlayer will be Freesat only. As I&#039;ve suggested elsewhere, for some types of users iPlayer (and Kangaroo, if that comes to the platform too) may well be just as good a solution as a PVR. Not for all, by any means, of course - but if you can catch up on just a few missed things and don&#039;t want to build a library on the hard drive, it may do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with access to the iPlayer from other platforms is that they haven&#8217;t necessarily been designed with IPTV capabilities from the off. Sure, there&#8217;s an ethernet port on the SkyHD boxes, but unless and until Sky makes that available, iPlayer won&#8217;t happen on that platform.</p>
<p>Freesat boxes have to have the ethernet port as part of the spec, and the interactive MHEG has enhancements to use it. I suspect that that will be used to drive the iPlayer on the platform &#8211; launch via the red button on a BBC channel, and then the MHEG can request the streams via the ethernet port.</p>
<p>Sky boxes use OpenTV; so a different app would have to be written. And the ethernet port would need to be enabled for that too. That&#8217;s even assuming the version of OpenTV supports the appropriate protocols to access whatever will be serving the iPlayer streams.</p>
<p>What if it doesn&#8217;t? Should the BBC spend license payer&#8217;s money to get the firmware in Sky boxes updated, so they can access iPlayer? Will Sky pay for the upgrades, so that the BBC can deliver an application on their platform (and Sky dragging their heels on interactive stuff was one reason cited for Freesat, don&#8217;t forget!).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually think the Trust will need to approve iPlayer for Freesat anyway; iPlayer has approval, and this is just another platform. They didn&#8217;t have to get approval for adding it to iPhone, or N96, or Wii, after all.</p>
<p>The BBC remains platform neutral, in that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily favour one platform over another &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t mean that it can&#8217;t exploit the features of one or another. Nor does it mean they have to work to the lowest common denominator. So, there are more news multiscreens and more interactive sports on satellite than on Freeview, for instance. </p>
<p>If the Sky platform has the abilities to do iPlayer, then in time, they&#8217;ll probably roll it out. But I wouldn&#8217;t expect them to do that until Sky has updated the boxes to enable the appropriate functionality, which they&#8217;ll likely only do a) if they feel they&#8217;re losing people by not having iPlayer or b) if they launch something similar of their own.</p>
<p>In the short term at least, iPlayer will be Freesat only. As I&#8217;ve suggested elsewhere, for some types of users iPlayer (and Kangaroo, if that comes to the platform too) may well be just as good a solution as a PVR. Not for all, by any means, of course &#8211; but if you can catch up on just a few missed things and don&#8217;t want to build a library on the hard drive, it may do.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the next good thing for freesat will be more hd (i don&#039;t really care about bbc iplayer, as i can stream through my xbox 360 if i want to watch it on the big tv) I would only care about iplayer coming to freesat if it was in better quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the next good thing for freesat will be more hd (i don&#8217;t really care about bbc iplayer, as i can stream through my xbox 360 if i want to watch it on the big tv) I would only care about iplayer coming to freesat if it was in better quality.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewM</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/9xm-and-9x-uk-join-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-3695</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about the iPlayer on Freesat, jonnyenglish, I&#039;d completely forgotten about that.  I have no idea when it will arrive, but when it does I think it will be a big competitive advantage over Freeview.

I suspect, though, that it won&#039;t be just on Freesat; I think if the BBC Trust approves it (I&#039;m assuming they will need to) then it will be for both Sky and Freesat.  Otherwise there will be quite a few Sky+ HD subscribers (almost 500,000, although this figure includes ROI) who would be annoyed at not having the same access to the iPlayer as Freesat and Virgin Media viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the iPlayer on Freesat, jonnyenglish, I&#8217;d completely forgotten about that.  I have no idea when it will arrive, but when it does I think it will be a big competitive advantage over Freeview.</p>
<p>I suspect, though, that it won&#8217;t be just on Freesat; I think if the BBC Trust approves it (I&#8217;m assuming they will need to) then it will be for both Sky and Freesat.  Otherwise there will be quite a few Sky+ HD subscribers (almost 500,000, although this figure includes ROI) who would be annoyed at not having the same access to the iPlayer as Freesat and Virgin Media viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/9xm-and-9x-uk-join-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-3694</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Davei.

I remember when I first watched Star Trek many MOONS ago when the crew all had hand held communicators, just Sci-Fiction at the time now we got mobile phones and satellite&#039;s, it play&#039;s a big part in our daily lives and we wouldn&#039;t have feesat, so for now, beam me up Scottie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Davei.</p>
<p>I remember when I first watched Star Trek many MOONS ago when the crew all had hand held communicators, just Sci-Fiction at the time now we got mobile phones and satellite&#8217;s, it play&#8217;s a big part in our daily lives and we wouldn&#8217;t have feesat, so for now, beam me up Scottie.</p>
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		<title>By: Davei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>timy, I can&#039;t say whether 9xm and 9x uk are rubbish or not, as I don&#039;t think I belong to the audience they&#039;re aimed at; I am, therefore, not qualified to judge (not that I&#039;ve actually had a look yet anyway).  They are clearly aimed at a certain niche market, and that can only be a good thing - to be a good all-round platform, Freesat needs to serve minorities as well as the majority.  

By the way, there seem to be repeated calls from posters (e.g. Ernie, on this thread) for something like Sci-Fi to come to Freesat.  Well, as an aficionado of science fiction, I personally hope that Sci-Fi *doesn&#039;t* come to Freesat - that particular channel &#039;does exactly what it says on the tin&#039; and suffers all the faults bequeathed it by those who insist upon calling the genre &#039;sci-fi&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timy, I can&#8217;t say whether 9xm and 9x uk are rubbish or not, as I don&#8217;t think I belong to the audience they&#8217;re aimed at; I am, therefore, not qualified to judge (not that I&#8217;ve actually had a look yet anyway).  They are clearly aimed at a certain niche market, and that can only be a good thing &#8211; to be a good all-round platform, Freesat needs to serve minorities as well as the majority.  </p>
<p>By the way, there seem to be repeated calls from posters (e.g. Ernie, on this thread) for something like Sci-Fi to come to Freesat.  Well, as an aficionado of science fiction, I personally hope that Sci-Fi *doesn&#8217;t* come to Freesat &#8211; that particular channel &#8216;does exactly what it says on the tin&#8217; and suffers all the faults bequeathed it by those who insist upon calling the genre &#8216;sci-fi&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: timy</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/9xm-and-9x-uk-join-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-3690</link>
		<dc:creator>timy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9xm 9x uk What a load rubbish,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9xm 9x uk What a load rubbish,</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Denis.

Yes I have whatched 4music and thought it was going to be a breath of fresh air, but im afraid there&#039;s no change, and as for Girls Aloud what a load rubbish, as with all those R&amp;B bands singing through there noses and I wonder what they are like singing live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denis.</p>
<p>Yes I have whatched 4music and thought it was going to be a breath of fresh air, but im afraid there&#8217;s no change, and as for Girls Aloud what a load rubbish, as with all those R&amp;B bands singing through there noses and I wonder what they are like singing live.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernie, there is lots more music channels to come; Flava, oMusic, Fizz, Channel U, Bliss, Flaunt, NME, Clubland, and Rockworld.  Really got a good choice now on Freesat which is going to get even bigger.  And there is a rumor that Red is rebranding into a music channel next month (called Hits TV), plus I suspect 4music will also go FTA in the next few months.  And a lot of these channels are much better than the The Hits and TMF are (or was in regards to The Hits).  So something to look forward to!

Then there are the movie channels; World Movies is a good quality channel which I&#039;m hoping will appear on the Freesat epg at some point, and Movies4Women and Movies4Women2 will be launching soon, so I hope they will join Freesat aswell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernie, there is lots more music channels to come; Flava, oMusic, Fizz, Channel U, Bliss, Flaunt, NME, Clubland, and Rockworld.  Really got a good choice now on Freesat which is going to get even bigger.  And there is a rumor that Red is rebranding into a music channel next month (called Hits TV), plus I suspect 4music will also go FTA in the next few months.  And a lot of these channels are much better than the The Hits and TMF are (or was in regards to The Hits).  So something to look forward to!</p>
<p>Then there are the movie channels; World Movies is a good quality channel which I&#8217;m hoping will appear on the Freesat epg at some point, and Movies4Women and Movies4Women2 will be launching soon, so I hope they will join Freesat aswell.</p>
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