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Oct 08 2013

BBC One to launch +1 channelBBC Director General Tony Hall announced today that Britain’s most-watched channel will launch a BBC One +1 channel.

Speaking today, he said:

Any plan for channels starts with BBC One. Above all, BBC One needs to be on top form. It has to be the nation’s favourite channel, but also its bravest. We’ll also look to launch a BBC One +1 channel, too – it’s what audiences expect, especially younger ones, and it means people can get more of what they’ve already paid for.

Charlotte Moore, Controller of BBC One, adds:

This is brilliant news for BBC One viewers, it means the content we pay for delivers even more value for audiences. In a world of increased choice, +1 will enable licence fee payers to have even more access to our broad range of programmes every day.

BBC One already reaches 80 per cent of the population on average per week, by far the biggest reach of any other channel. The backwards programme guide on YouView is already helping audiences fit more of the best content into their busy lives. The extras audiences get through the red button and our new connected red button makes pressing red even better, bringing TV, radio and online seamlessly together on the living room TV, in the simplest way possible. And with plans to launch on a number of new platforms, including FreeView, Freesat and YouView, in the next 12 months – this is what channels will feel like, in the future.

Emma Scott, Managing Director of Freesat said:

The announcement today that BBC One will launch a +1 channel on Freesat is fantastic news for our 4 million viewers as we continue to add new channels and On Demand services, plus invest in cutting edge technology. Our own backwards TV Guide has already proved incredibly popular, giving viewers the option to Roll Back in time via a slick TV Guide which also gives recommendations on what to watch. It’s a hugely exciting time in the TV market and the addition of popular new channels and services can only strengthen our great line-up, giving viewers more of what they want in their living rooms.

We’re really excited about the new BBC iPlayer features and hope to be able to roll them out for our Freetime users as soon as they become available. We will soon be delivering more features to our next generation Freetime service including a remote app and in the future, additional movie and music channels.

Further details on when this new service will launch and how it will be made available to licence fee payers will be confirmed in due course.

54 Responses to “BBC One to launch +1 channel”

  1. Andy Clayton Says:

    Remote app? Sounds interesting. That’s the kind of thing I’m waiting for before I upgrade. I’ll be sticking with my original Freesat+ box until we start getting really innovative stuff on Freetime.

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  2. Ian Vallender Says:

    is a +1 channel really necessary? with bbc iplayer on boxes and roll back on freetime i could think of better things to spend my license fee on. better programming especially weekend afternoons a few years ago i would have said yes since technology has evolved!

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  3. admin Says:

    Ian Vallender said:
    is a +1 channel really necessary? with bbc iplayer on boxes and roll back on freetime i could think of better things to spend my license fee on. better programming especially weekend afternoons a few years ago i would have said yes since technology has evolved!

    It seems that +1 channels are still very popular, though BBC are very late to the party on this one! I’m actually quite surprised as BBC are pushing forward with iPlayer upgrades which surely cover off the need for a +1 channel.

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  4. Dave Says:

    It sounds ok having an extra channel but would much rather know if in the future freesat will be getting some UKTV channels ?

    Cos as we know they are gonna advertise on the UKTV channels

    Only 77 days till Christmas they must be something good coming soon ??

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  5. admin Says:

    Dave said:
    It sounds ok having an extra channel but would much rather know if in the future freesat will be getting some UKTV channels ?
    Cos as we know they are gonna advertise on the UKTV channels
    Only 77 days till Christmas they must be something good coming soon ??

    Ahhhh, the predictable comment from Dave, I could have almost wrote that one for you…although would have had to change it from 78 days to 77 days ;)

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  6. Dave Says:

    :-) lol

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  7. Wouter Says:

    it would be great if all those +1 channels will also be available in HD, otherwise for me less valuable.

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  8. Neil Says:

    Good news on a BBC1+1, they’ve obviously realised as all the commercial PSB’s now have +1′s, then the UK’s most watched channel should also too. This is obviously a departure from the BBC’s policy of iPlayer only for repeats.

    I guess this will occupy LCN 111 which is still vacant and nicely one slot below ITV+1 too!

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  9. Rosco Says:

    For everyone complaining that with iplayer we dont need +1′s of any kind just reflect you are lucky to be living in an area where the broadband is up to speed. There are still millions of households on slowband, with no interest from the telecoms companies for upgrading them.

    I live 2 miles from our town centre and get sub 2 meg. Youtube struggles some nights, Iplayer is just hopeless.

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  10. Keith (original) Says:

    +1 channels are also sometimes useful when there are scheduled recording conflicts. Presumably, the BBC1+1 channel will be SD?

    Re: 5@admin… Perhaps ‘Dave’ is the UKTV channel of that name? ;-)

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  11. Al (Original) Says:

    Rosco said:
    For everyone complaining that with iplayer we dont need +1′s of any kind just reflect you are lucky to be living in an area where the broadband is up to speed. There are still millions of households on slowband, with no interest from the telecoms companies for upgrading them.
    I live 2 miles from our town centre and get sub 2 meg. Youtube struggles some nights, Iplayer is just hopeless.

    I agree and even where you have high speed connections, there’s no guarantee of reliability. My exhange is fully digital and there’s a fibre cabinet next to the traditional cabinet at the end of my road. My ADSL line is just as unreliable as its ever been. Fibre might possibly improve that but with hundreds of nodes between you and the source, there’s a lot of scope for errors to arise.

    The beauty of sat is its simplicity. 1 upload & 1 download, so very little to go wrong.

    Also broadcast quality is better in my opinion.

    As for +1, inavluable when you come in 10 minutes after your favourite programme has started or the programme you forgot to record.

    As for costs, I doubt the BBC are spending much money on this. After all its only a simoulcast with a 1 hour delay so no programming costs onyl bandwidth.

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  12. Alan Clark Says:

    It’s a shame they don’t sort out the local TV problem, why do we have to switch channels to watch local news when ITV has sorted themselves out. One minute were watching BBC1 HD then we have to switch!!

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  13. Brian Damage Says:

    I guess the point of this is for those who either don’t have fast enough broadband, or don’t have a device which supports the iPlayer.

    Otherwise, you’d think the money would be better spent elsewhere.

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  14. Andy Says:

    As other people have said, why another +1 channel when we have iPlayer, Roll Back, repeats and Hard Disk Recorders like the Humax. I am disappointed with the BBC still not having regional news in HD after all these years, having to change from 108 to 101 (on Freesat) after the main news to local news everytime. Also, there’s nothing on the RBHD (980 Freesat) channel most of the time which they can fill with BBC3 and BBC4 programmes. We want more HD channels not SD.

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  15. alexander Says:

    Andy said: As other people have said, why another +1 channel when we have iPlayer, Roll Back, repeats and Hard Disk Recorders like the Humax. I am disappointed with the BBC still not having regional news in HD after all these years, having to change from 108 to 101 (on Freesat) after the main news to local news everytime. Also, there’s nothing on the RBHD (980 Freesat) channel most of the time which they can fill with BBC3 and BBC4 programmes. We want more HD channels not SD.

    What FREESAT want’s is the BBC, ITV, CHANNEL4 & CHANNEL5 is to place all their channels on FREESAT and in HD.

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  16. Neil Says:

    I wonder if longer-term they’ll shunt BBC Alba down the EPG and put BBC1+1 and a BBC2+1 service on 110 and 111 respectively? I can never see them launching kids or BBC’s Three and Four timeshifts as so much stuff is repeated on there anyway.

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  17. Lawrence Pearce Says:

    @15 “What FREESAT want’s is the BBC, ITV, CHANNEL4 & CHANNEL5 is to place all their channels on FREESAT and in HD”.
    Well yes, but they need to be grouped together in the EPG. I’m lucky enough to have both Freesat and Youview, and frankly I now rarely use Freesat because of this inconvenience.
    Like many others I suspect, 80% of my viewing is from the four main terrestrial channels and I like to quickly be able to zap from one to another. If it makes sense to group the five main SD channels together, then why on earth can’t Freesat do the same with the HD equivalents? I wouldn’t even mind if it was possible to do this manually…

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  18. Keith Cobby Says:

    I agree with Andy about having more HD. I watched a programme on the excellent NHK HD channel last week about developments in transmitting in 4K/8K. Progress seems to me to be very slow in the UK.

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  19. jinksy Says:

    All I can say is thank god for Freesat as the area I live in you can only pickup 10tv channels on freeview so I doubt very much if we will be able to pickup bbc1+.Freesat gives good viewing all round especially if you can’t afford other satalite suppliers.

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  20. Richard Crichton Says:

    Have the BBC won the lottery? It’s not long since they were talking about closing down 6 music and Asian Network to save money and they could only give us HD Lite to save money on bandwidth. The reason the commercial channels love to have +1 channels is because they can charge more for advertising on them .What’s the BBC’s excuse?
    Will it be HD and if so will we be getting the version appropriate to our country as I do for BBC 1 HD Scotland. In other words is it one version only and what region will it be if it is. My guess would be London region UK wide.
    They should forget it imho and make some more shows with the money saved. Instead of having the same thing on 5 nights a week how about some variety in the schedule? Please.

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  21. Richard Crichton Says:

    Keith Cobby said:
    I agree with Andy about having more HD. I watched a programme on the excellent NHK HD channel last week about developments in transmitting in 4K/8K. Progress seems to me to be very slow in the UK.

    2015 for 4K and it’ll be Sly that does it first but it’ll be very expensive no doubt. You will need their top package to get it.
    They (Sly) have already transmitted a football match to their HQ in 4K.

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  22. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    Have the BBC won the lottery? It’s not long since they were talking about closing down 6 music and Asian Network to save money and they could only give us HD Lite to save money on bandwidth.The reason the commercial channels love to have +1 channels is because they can charge more for advertising on them .What’s the BBC’s excuse?
    Will it be HD and if so will we be getting the version appropriate to our country as I do for BBC 1 HD Scotland. In other words is it one version only and what region will it be if it is. My guess would be London region UK wide.
    They should forget it imho and make some more shows with the money saved. Instead of having the same thing on 5 nights a week how about some variety in the schedule? Please.

    Tony Hall, the new DG, is a much more forward thinking guy than the previous DG before the last (the last only being in the job a few Months so unfair to critise him before he’d even started!).

    Tony was spelling out the plans for the BBC post-Charter renewal which means they can go to the Government and say “yes we want this and that in our licence fee renewal, we’ll promise x and y, it will cost so much and we want an increase in licence fee costs to cover it”.

    If they want four versions of BBC1+1 for each part of the UK, they’ll need to activate a new Transponder to cover this as certainly won’t fit it in to any of their existing ones unless they go down the route of reducing PQ.

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  23. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said: Tony Hall, the new DG, is a much more forward thinking guy than the previous DG before the last (the last only being in the job a few Months so unfair to critise him before he’d even started!).
    Tony was spelling out the plans for the BBC post-Charter renewal which means they can go to the Government and say “yes we want this and that in our licence fee renewal, we’ll promise x and y, it will cost so much and we want an increase in licence fee costs to cover it”.
    If they want four versions of BBC1+1 for each part of the UK, they’ll need to activate a new Transponder to cover this as certainly won’t fit it in to any of their existing ones unless they go down the route of reducing PQ.

    So it’ll be a part time +1 channel. They haven’t though it through have they.
    Much rather have a More 1 or a 1 Extra channel that will give the viewer some choice More prog choice please not more channels wasting bandwidth and our money.

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  24. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: So it’ll be a part time +1 channel. They haven’t though it through have they.
    Much rather have a More 1 or a 1 Extra channel that will give the viewer some choiceMore prog choice please not more channels wasting bandwidth and our money.

    I don’t think it will be part-time, should be a full-time timeshift of BBC One.

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  25. alexander Says:

    Neil said: I don’t think it will be part-time, should be a full-time timeshift of BBC One.

    I bet the new +1 channel is in SD.

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  26. Neil Says:

    alexander said: I bet the new +1 channel is in SD.

    Sure will – as per all other timeshift channels. Only C4 has so far made a bold application for a DTPS licence for 4HD+1, when or if this will materialise we’ll have to see? Even Sky don’t do timeshift channels in HD.

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  27. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said: I don’t think it will be part-time, should be a full-time timeshift of BBC One.

    That disciminates against 5million licence fee payers who happen to live in Scotland?
    Eg when River City is on BBC1 in Scotland at the same time as Holby City is on BBC1 in England which will I get an hour later if I live in Scotland? And when Holby City is on BBC1 in Scotland something else is on BBC1 in England.

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  28. Richard Crichton Says:

    alexander said: I bet the new +1 channel is in SD.

    The BBC should not follow the herd. Just because the money grabber channels do
    +1 SD. BBC should set a better example.

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  29. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said: Sure will – as per all other timeshift channels. Only C4 has so far made a bold application for a DTPS licence for 4HD+1, when or if this will materialise we’ll have to see? Even Sky don’t do timeshift channels in HD.

    The BBC should defo do it in HD and make Sky look bad. D:

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  30. Neil Says:

    Now Music TV is to launch on 512 on the 23rd, announced on the official ‘Now That’s What I call Music’ facebook page yesterday. Now albums are released by AATW (Universal), looks like Greatest Hits, not currently on the EPG, is being re-branded for this.

    Admin: I emailed you yesterday night with this, not sure if you got it or not??

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  31. admin Says:

    Sorry Neil, I did but didn’t get chance to reply, mad busy today! I was going to post about it, but usually results in a backlash from those moaning about more music channels ;)

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  32. Neil Says:

    admin said: Sorry Neil, I did but didn’t get chance to reply, mad busy today! I was going to post about it, but usually results in a backlash from those moaning about more music channels

    Know what you mean, you can’t complain at more channels though, especially as at least they are non-shopping channels!

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  33. Al (Original) Says:

    Neil said:
    I wonder if longer-term they’ll shunt BBC Alba down the EPG and put BBC1+1 and a BBC2+1 service on 110 and 111 respectively? I can never see them launching kids or BBC’s Three and Four timeshifts as so much stuff is repeated on there anyway.

    Here’s my suggestion for a reshuffle:

    Group the HD channels together starting at 131 with BBC

    So

    131 BBC 1 HD
    132 BBC 2 HD
    133 ITV 1 HD
    134 Ch4 HD

    (unallocated 135-138 for future HD)

    139 NHK HD

    140-149 (Unallocated for future HD)

    (see the logical number choice relating to the current channels?)

    Then shuffle the other channels down the epg.

    So the current 120-130 move to 150-160 (to leave 120-130 unoccupied for other channel variants that may spring up out of the main 5 broadcasters)

    The current 131 follows on ie becomes 161.

    So the epg would look like it does now down to 120. Except for the addition of BBC 1+1 and the removal of the HD channels on 108, 109, 119

    Summary

    101-119 – as now except HD channels moved
    120-130 – unallocated space for future content from main 5 broadcasters
    131-149- HD & Unallocated future HD
    150-160 – Channels currently on 120-130
    161 + – Channels currently on 131+

    That way all the HD channels are grouped together with room for future expansion of SD content from the main 5 broadcasters and future room for expansion of HD without the need for any further re-shuffle..

    The HD channels get logical numbers in their grouping so BBC1 HD is 131, BBC 2 HD 132 etc.

    The other channels stay in the exact position they are in now, only further down the epg numbers.

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  34. Richard Crichton Says:

    Failing a major reshuffle a HD category in the EPG like on TalkTalk YouView is all that’s required and perhaps a favorites list facility like Manhattan boxes provide.

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  35. Rosco Says:

    Al (Original) said: Here’s my suggestion for a reshuffle:

    Only one problem – and its the same problem that ALL fantasy epgs suffer from – its not possible!

    EPG allocation for both FS & Sky is done on a FRND basis (fair reasonable & none discriminatory). This is a *legal requirement*, not a FS / Sky rule.

    So channels are basically added on a first come first served basis, apart from a few rules concerning the PSB’s.

    Therefore FS cannot just punt a few channels 20/30 places down the epg just to satisfy the desires of a few anoraks who want order in their epgs….

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  36. miffo Says:

    So what is it that Graham North says is being launched on Monday at humaxdirect?

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  37. Al (Original) Says:

    Rosco said: Only one problem – and its the same problem that ALL fantasy epgs suffer from – its not possible!
    EPG allocation for both FS & Sky is done on a FRND basis (fair reasonable & none discriminatory). This is a *legal requirement*, not a FS / Sky rule.
    So channels are basically added on a first come first served basis, apart from a few rules concerning the PSB’s.
    Therefore FS cannot just punt a few channels 20/30 places down the epg just to satisfy the desires of a few anoraks who want order in their epgs….

    Well I hate to disappoint you on a few counts but:

    1. I’m not an anorak.

    2. There’s already a BBC Trust and legally approved plan to move and group all HD channels together

    3. None of the order of any of the other channels is changed in my suggestion only the numbering, the existing positions of all non HD channels relative to each other is maintained.

    4. I just had an opinion on this very suggestion on another forum from someone who I understand is a technician at the BBC and he has said that it doesn’t contradict the Comms Act in his opinion. Presumably because HD channels aside (which are already approved for a move) it retains the existing channel order.

    5. With respect to it being 1st come 1st served, my understanding is the channel positions are allocated according to popularity not the date at which an application was made.

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  38. Rosco Says:

    Al (Original) said: Well I hate to disappoint you on a few counts but:
    1. I’m not an anorak.

    Thats open to debate. ;)

    I would have thought the obvious thing to do was just add 1000 to the channel numbers for the HD versions & have them in a seperate list somewhere

    BBC 1 1101
    BBC2 1102 etc

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  39. Dave W Says:

    To be honest I’m surprised that channel numbers still matter these days. It should be possible to delete and reorder channels as you see fit. Couple that with a fast EPG and Bob’s your uncle. I know some boxes offer a favourites list but it’s not quite the same thing.

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  40. Richard Crichton Says:

    SD boxes still exist so the BBC will need to maintain both SD and HD versions of their channels but eventually after a long period of just HD boxes being sold BBC3 HD , BBC4HD, BBC News HD should replace the SD channel numbers directly as the SD channels will than be obsolete. Very against adding 1000 for HD channel numbers bad enough having three numbers to press. BBC1 SD will probably have to stay because of bandwidth costs of the 20ish different BBC1 regions.
    BBC2 HD could have the 4 country versions and replace the SD versions directly.
    In any event add a HD and eventually a 4k Ultra HD category to the guide it’s not rocket science :D

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  41. Richard Crichton Says:

    NHK has or had the same channel number in the guide for both SD and HD versions. SD boxes got the SD version HD boxes the HD version. The BBC could do the same for some of their channels. Did I read somewhere that NHK dropped the SD version?

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  42. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    NHK has or had the same channel number in the guide for both SD and HD versions. SD boxes got the SD version HD boxes the HD version. The BBC could do the same for some of their channels. Did I readsomewhere that NHK dropped the SD version?

    Yep, they dropped the SD version about 12mths ago, maybe longer. It was at a shoddy bitrate and in 4:3, once the HD version appeared the whole channel looked completely different.

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  43. Matthew Says:

    Personally I think instead of launching BBC1+1 they should do a BBC movies channel, I’m sure there are 10000s of movies they could buy the rights too cheaply. You know it makes sense.

    They could buy the rights to fairly recent movies and balance this by airing movies to appeal to different demographics, and at the same time having holiday themed movies at the appropriate time.

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  44. r.crichton Says:

    Matthew said:
    Personally I think instead of launching BBC1+1 they should do a BBC movies channel, I’m sure there are 10000s of movies they could buy the rights too cheaply. You know it makes sense.
    They could buy the rights to fairly recent movies and balance this by airing movies to appeal to different demographics, and at the same time having holiday themed movies at the appropriate time.

    will never happen.sly hold majority of film rights for satellite in the uk

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  45. Al (Original) Says:

    r.crichton said: will never happen.sly hold majority of film rights for satellite in the uk

    Plus there’s already competition in the form of Film4.

    There’s more scope for a minority sports channels such as Extreme.

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  46. Neil Says:

    How about ‘BBC Sports News’ featuring a rotating 30 min bulletin with snippets of sports news added as and when and the odd documentary about various sports players, clubs, teams etc. They’d have to get this past the charter renewal but would to sports fans feel a tad more value for the licence-fee.

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  47. Dan Says:

    There should just be a new BBC Sport channel, which could be for rolling news most of the time, but coverage of live events and highlights when they have them. As BBC have next to no popular live rights left this channel would be great for sports fans like myself who feel the licence fee gives nothing but match of the day, a bit of snooker & wimbledon once a year.

    This channel could be a rolling news bulletin like sportsday on BBC news or SSN, but could host MOTD & the football league show, as well as any live coverage such as when the FA Cup returns for a few games on the BBC next season. They could use it as the 2nd channel for wimbledon & snooker, freeing up one of the 2 main channels which non sports fans currently complain about it being used for simultaneously.

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  48. Richard Crichton Says:

    Off topic but nothing else to write about. The Gadget Show on CH5 next Monday the 21st Oct is looking at free tv platforms. The last time they did that they didn’t even mention Freesat.Perhaps Freesat didn’t donate any kit to their gadget giveaway. Will this time be any different or has Freesat entered their way of thinking.. If they look at Freetime and find U Tube isn’t working they won’t be very impressed.

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  49. David Says:

    First time post so be gentle with me.
    Over the last couple of months I am have experience fairly dramatic break up of the picture on my HD channels. The screen freezes with pixelation and loud clicks and crackles. This can go on for several days then clear up for a while.
    I have a humax Foxsat HDR and a dish that has been on the roof for at least ten years. All the non HD channels seem fine.
    Can I just ask the freesat experts if they think the likely source of the problem is dish alignment or a fault with the receiver.
    Trying to get some idea before I do a call out to an engineer.

    Thanks in advance

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  50. Scott Says:

    Think it sounds great, find the time shift channels really handy.

    Would love freesat to group the HD channels together too, but find it strange why the obvious not stated, channel numbers 1-4 would make more sense to me

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  51. james smith Says:

    Cheers for the gadget show heads up
    I just watched it via demand 5 on a PC
    Very distorted I thought, i.e. did not tell you how much storage space that any of the boxes had. They only did one recording, and did not comment on it’s time keeping. Freesat that I have, record an ITV show via the guide, and the end of the recording is likely to be missing. Or what if some one’s location skews their choice, were I live forget freeview, if a car goes past it ruins what you are watching

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  52. m tate Says:

    they (freesat) need to to put pressure on channel 5 to get their HD service on freesat. never mind +1 channels it should have the main 5 services in HD first

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  53. Al (Original) Says:

    m tate said:
    they (freesat) need to to put pressure on channel 5 to get their HD service on freesat.never mind +1 channels it should have the main 5 services in HD first

    Unfortunately 5HD has just gone Pay for View.

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  54. m tate Says:

    Al (Original) said: Unfortunately 5HD has just gone Pay for View.

    i know… bad news for freesat imo and just to prove what a joke this country has become

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