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Jul 24 2013

Freesat, the UK’s free-to-air digital satellite television provider, today reported its 21st quarter of consecutive growth, adding 145,000 homes to the service in the last twelve months.

The continued growth of the subscription free service jointly owned by BBC and ITV is expected to outpace Pay-TV rivals, Sky and Virgin Media, in the same period.

Now in its sixth year of operation, Freesat provides free entertainment to 4 million viewers a week across 1.8 million homes in the UK.

As well as enjoying quality programming for free, people are increasingly using Freesat’s products to enhance the TV and radio they love. Last month, a record breaking number of Freesat viewers tuned in to watch 12 million hours of Glastonbury coverage in HD.

Emma Scott, Freesat’s Managing Director commented:

Our continued strong results show thousands of people making the smart choice of Freesat as the alternative to expensive TV contracts. As take up across the UK has increased, so has our offer. We now provide more than 150 HD and standard definition TV, radio and interactive channels, offering live pause, record, a market leading catch up service through our Backwards TV Guide, plus BBC iPlayer, ITV Player and 4oD.

We continue to add new channels and on demand services and invest in cutting edge technology. We will soon deliver more features to our next generation <free time> service, including the addition of Demand 5, a remote app for smart phones, and in the future, additional movie and music channels.

Freesat has now sold 3.3 million set top boxes and TVs, far exceeding original sales projections, taking gross retail sales value to over £1.2 billion since launch in May 2008.

98 Responses to “Freesat to outpace Sky in 21st consecutive quarter of growth”

  1. Keith Cobby Says:

    The good news keeps coming – well done Freesat.

    More HD channels please.

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  2. Bob Says:

    How do they determine these statistics??

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  3. Dipper Says:

    12 million hours?

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  4. Neil Says:

    Good news, always great to see good sales as boosts the decision for those channels wanting to join the platform. We’ll shortly be getting Arise News HD so another HD channel launch. Hopefully this nice warm weather will make those paying for subscription TV who hardly benefit think if they really need it considering most will be out and about and not sat in watching TV!

    Admin; I thought freesat released sales figures in March, are they now doing cumulative annualised figures per quarter (like Sky)?

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  5. Glyn Says:

    More choice of freetime set top boxes need, i bought a humax freetime box very buggy had take it back to store. I have had a freesat humax box for many years an it is brilliant. I think its been rushed on to the market without testing.

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  6. Al Catraz Says:

    well done Freesat!

    good to see the mention of a smartphone app and more movie channels.

    there’s even a mention of demand5 delivery – is that another pig I see flying past my window…

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  7. DeanM6BYF Says:

    Arise News HD, I can hardly contain my excitement. I know its another HD channel to the list and that’s a good thing, but really!?! ITV2-4 HD or maybe Food Network or CBS channels in HD that would be worthwhile.

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  8. Andy Clayton Says:

    Agree with Al @ 6.

    I’ve never seen it, but have heard good things about the iPad app that $ky offer. It’s good to hear that Freesat are moving in this direction too. Clearly “television” – offering a good channel selection (with HD where possible) should always be primary, however the “second screen” in the form of tablets (and I suppose to a lesser extent, smartphones) is a very real concept so that’s a big positive I’m taking from Emma’s statement.

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  9. Kevin McFarlane Says:

    @DeanM6BYF, no harm in having news channels in HD. They don’t just show news, often quite interesting documentaries but each to their own.

    CBS channels in HD? No doubt, some think those channels are rubbish but each to their own.

    But Freesat will get more HD over time. It just requires patience.

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  10. Richard Crichton Says:

    Hardly suprising in these cash strapped times. You can’t keep on increasing your price and expect people to swalow it.Good news for Freesat but need more manufacturers of G2 boxes.
    CH5 and +1 picture is dire. Not even good SD.
    Sky News HD claims to be on Freesat if you believe their adverts on Pick.
    When BBC News HD starts will Sky follow suit?

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  11. Richard Crichton Says:

    Where wouild CBS get the native HD programing from as they only show retro material made in the last century and some of it is truly appaling looking on a modern HD TV.

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  12. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    Hardly suprising in these cash strapped times. You can’t keep on increasing your price and expect people to swalow it.Good news for Freesat but need more manufacturers of G2 boxes.
    CH5 and +1 picture is dire. Not even good SD.
    Sky News HD claims to be on Freesat if you believe their adverts on Pick.
    When BBC News HD starts will Sky follow suit?

    I agree that they need a few extra freetime products, Sky are whacking up their prices again in September and I think they are blind to think that people will accept an above an over-inflationary price rise year after year.

    I think Sky News will definitely put Sky News HD FTA once BBC News goes HD as not to be outdone by the competition! I guess it will appear on DTT and their own platform but they’ll not put it on Freesat so as to play childish games again like they did with Sky News for years (until their hands were tied by the BBC and ITV for on-demand inclusion).

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  13. Kevin McFarlane Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    Where wouild CBS get the native HD programing from as they only show retro material made in the last century and some of it is truly appaling looking on a modern HD TV.

    Quality varies but tbh even SD to the standard of terrestrial would be good enough for me.

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  14. Kevin McFarlane Says:

    Neil said:
    I think Sky News will definitely put Sky News HD FTA once BBC News goes HD as not to be outdone by the competition!

    I don’t see that Sky lose anything by putting HD on Freesat. But I guess they don’t gain anything either!

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  15. scott Says:

    great news freesat maybe now big name channels will take notice of the freesat platform looking forward to more channel launches and continued success in the future. which movie and music channels are coming soon more entertainment will be good too.

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  16. Richard Crichton Says:

    If Sky News goes FTA on their own platform we will get it in non Freesat mode which will do fine.
    Had Arise HD stored in my HD favourites list since it started. Should be up to 15 HD channels in 2014 fingers crossed.
    It would be nice if ITV the part owners of Freesat supported the platform with ITV 2.3.4 HD before much longer. Perhaps after the BBC go all HD.

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  17. Darth Says:

    Andy Clayton said:
    Agree with Al @ 6.
    I’ve never seen it, but have heard good things about the iPad app that $ky offer. It’s good to hear that Freesat are moving in this direction too. Clearly “television” – offering a good channel selection (with HD where possible) should always be primary, however the “second screen” in the form of tablets (and I suppose to a lesser extent, smartphones) is a very real concept so that’s a big positive I’m taking from Emma’s statement.

    Is the app going to be used as a second screen for viewing or will it be used for remote recording?

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  18. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    If Sky News goes FTA on their own platform we will get it in non Freesat mode which will do fine.
    Had Arise HDstored in my HD favourites list since it started. Should be up to 15 HD channels in 2014 fingers crossed.
    It would be nice if ITV the part owners of Freesat supported the platform with ITV 2.3.4 HD before much longer. Perhaps after the BBC go all HD.

    Yep, agree on the ITV front, I do wonder if the BBC putting BBC Three HD on all platforms FTA may prompt ITV to do something as the two channels are sort of in competition programming-wise.

    @14 Kevin: Your right, Sky don’t loose out but they’d play silly games just to keep an extra HD channel of the EPG of a competing platform, as they did with Sky News ever since Freesat started.

    @7 DeanM6BYF: I agree it’s not the most watched channel but it’s an extrra HD channel after all and shows news from a different perspective. It’s very hard to establish a news channel, especially in such a saturated market but they’ve made a good go at it and slowly it’s coming together. Going HD FTA from the outset and avoiding the $ky HD paywall must be something the channel needs congratulating for, as should RT HD too.

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  19. Andy Clayton Says:

    Darth @ 17 – who knows? This is the first indication (as far as I’m aware) that we’ve had from Freesat directly that some kind of “remote app” is on the cards. It could just be some kind of remote control app (which wouldn’t be anything to write home about, frankly) but out of small acorns etc. We’ll just have to watch this space and see what happens!

    I’m slightly baffled by the calls for ITV to bring 2, 3 and 4 in HD to Freesat. I take the point that they’re part owners and should be supporting a platform they have a stake in but don’t they mostly show repeats of old content on those channels? A bit like the point someone made about CBS – not much to be gained in having it in HD. Having said that, I’m not the best person to comment. I don’t think I’ve ever watched ITV 2 and 3 and probably watch some football on ITV 4 about once a year. I’ll get my coat… ;-)

    How do Freesat come up with their figures? I guess it can only be through sales of Freesat enabled equipment. STB’s is fair enough – you’re hardly likely to buy a STB and then not use it, but Freesat enabled TV’s are another matter. You might buy one and then hook up an inferior platform (like $ky, Virgin Media or YouView/Freeview). I wonder what percentage of the figures are STB sales?

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  20. Kevin Ver 1 Says:

    Andy Clayton said:
    I’m slightly baffled by the calls for ITV to bring 2, 3 and 4 in HD to Freesat. I take the point that they’re part owners and should be supporting a platform they have a stake in but don’t they mostly show repeats of old content on those channels?

    But as time goes on more of those repeats will be in HD. Quite a few of the imported programs are in HD too.

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  21. Matthew Says:

    Really do think some of the UKTV channels like Gold, Dave, Really etc should be on Freesat, they’re partially funded by the license fee via the BBC, locking them behind a paywall because of Scripps is a pretty lame excuse, a compromise should be reached in that area.

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  22. Neil Says:

    Matthew said:
    Really do think some of the UKTV channels like Gold, Dave, Really etc should be on Freesat, they’re partially funded by the license fee via the BBC, locking them behind a paywall because of Scripps is a pretty lame excuse, a compromise should be reached in that area.

    Give it time and I think we’ll see at least some of the FTA DTT ones make it to the platform, may take a while longer though!

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  23. Richard Crichton Says:

    Kevin Ver 1 said: But as time goes on more of those repeats will be in HD. Quite a few of the imported programs are in HD too.

    And they show movies which are inherently HD.

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  24. kuergun Says:

    two words (only one can be published) “f” GREAT I pay a license fee and was/am deprived of half the F1 races and I put up with the adds so in one sense it’s not quite free is it?

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  25. Lawrence Pearce Says:

    I think that Freesat can be judges a great success in providing free quality viewing to large numbers of people. But I’m very sceptical about some of the figures bandied about. For example does “Freesat in 1.8 million homes” take into account the high mortality rate of modern equipment and that fact that many homes have multiple freesat machines (I probably have about half a dozen myself, for example!)
    It could even be that this “growth” is simply achieved by viewers replacing broken or obsolete Freesat equipment, rather than conquests from other platforms.
    Aa someone one said, lies, damned lies and statistics…

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  26. Neil Says:

    Possibly Lawrence and I take your point but it’s hard for platforms such as Freeview and Freesat to accurately measure sales figures as there’s no on-going subscription. Saying that, Sky also ‘twist’ their figures and put plenty of spin on their press releases – the next I think is due later this Month.

    Sky are now including Now TV subs in their overall subs, how do you quantify a ‘pay as you go’ streaming service as adding subscribers if they are on a per-occasion basis? Are they including everyone who registers, irrespective of whether they actually pay for anything or not?

    Freesat must have done some decent market research to back their figures up, supported by a market research organisation supporting them.

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  27. miffo Says:

    Is there a way to see non-freesat channel listings on the freetime box? List doesn’t do anything, nor does the guide. Trying to find Arise. Or failing this, is there a list of channel numbers online somewhere?

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  28. Richard Crichton Says:

    BT Sport claim to have signed up half a million customers. Are these coming from Sky Sports? Hope so.
    Freetime seems to have missed the boat on this so far at least.

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  29. Kate Says:

    Didn’t CBS get licences from Ofcom ages ago for 2 new HD channels?

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  32. Andy Clayton Says:

    Richard @ 28 I’m going seriously off topic now but don’t get me started on BT Sport. Seriously annoyed with them. I had to get BT Business Fibre because I’m self employed and need a static IP address. That means I can’t get BT Sport. No way around it. Paying a flipping fortune for my broadband too.

    … Counts to 10 …

    Sorry admin – Right, back to the subject in hand! ;-)

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  33. ASK Says:

    kuerguen @ 24

    Have paid the licence fee since 1962, and before Freesat I had 4 channels, and would gladly swap F1 for the Freeview service that the majority of the country enjoys.

    Lawrance Pearce @ 25

    You probably have about half a dozen. I bet Freesat are better with their estimates. I have had a Humax HD and a Humax HDR from 2008 with no problems.

    I also have five Freeview tuners in the house, but only use one for 30 mins, each for the STV news, as my Freesat boxes have a borders post code.

    I do believe that many more people, will purchase Freeview by default, and I would say that the great majority of Freesat buys, would be informed choices.

    I feel Freesat should be targeting people, in areas such as my own, where the Freeview service is poor, as every house is a potential customer.

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  34. Robert O Mahony Says:

    When are we going to get the Figures In Ireland Because Freesat is pretty big here. Why dont we have a Freesat Magazine It would be more money in the pocket for them. Why cant we get the Tennis Channel or EDTV Sports Europe. As a example

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  35. Amanda Brighton Says:

    I have Freesat due to the inadequacy of channels transmitted from my Freeview PSB (relay) transmitter.

    Freesat is always playing catch-up to Freeview, Sky & Virgin with it’s channel offerings. It might be an idea if Freesat could offer a good exclusive channel, even if it is only exclusive for 6 months to a year. Freesat is an ideal environment to pilot channels / programmes that could eventually, be sold onto other platforms.

    I know this is probably a naive idea & costs would be prohibitive, but manufacturers would be more inclined to produce more Freesat receivers if it had something special to offer.

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  36. dec Says:

    I think sky will cash in with their new H,D box in September having integrated internet to sell You View films programs etc,

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  37. Richard Crichton Says:

    Freesat is what it is. It’s not pay sat so you can’t expect channels that are behind a sat pay wall eg UK TV.
    If you want those get pay tv. Simples.

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  38. Richard Crichton Says:

    dec said:
    I think sky will cash in with their new H,D box in September having integrated internet to sell You View films programs etc,

    Not much use if your BB is on the slow side due to geogrphical location like lots are.

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  39. Richard Crichton Says:

    My next door neighbour told me he paid Sky £90 last month as a normal subsciption plus some movies he watched. Since he has BT Broadband he is dumping Sky Sports and getting free BT Sport instead to save some wonga. Can’t say I blame him. That is the pay tv reality. Thank You Freesat.

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  40. Michael Says:

    miffo said:
    Is there a way to see non-freesat channel listings on the freetime box?List doesn’t do anything, nor does the guide.Trying to find Arise.Or failing this, is there a list of channel numbers online somewhere?

    Yes, use non-Freesat mode and manually tune into required transponders.
    http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

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  41. Richard Crichton Says:

    On some boxes the non freesat mode is hidden untill after you do a channel scan. Applies to G1 Humax but don’t know about Humax Freetime.

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  42. Dipper Says:

    I see nobody else finds the 12 million hours of Glastonbury coverage a little exaggerated. If every band/artist played 24 hours a day for all three days there would still only be just over 50,000 hours to televise.

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  43. Big Adam Says:

    Dipper said: I see nobody else finds the 12 million hours of Glastonbury coverage a little exaggerated. If every band/artist played 24 hours a day for all three days there would still only be just over 50,000 hours to televise.

    Errr, I think you are forgetting to multiply by the number of viewers?

    D’oh!

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  44. Amanda Brighton Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    Freesat is what it is. It’s not pay sat so you can’t expect channels that are behind a sat pay wall eg UK TV.
    If you want those get pay tv. Simples.

    Or move to a area which receives Freeview’s commercial multiplexes. UKTV is free tho those lucky enough to be served by a main tv transmitter. Is Freesat the vehicle to provide cover for Freeview reception gaps?

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  45. ASK Says:

    BBC ONE
    BBCTWO
    STV
    CH4
    CH5
    ITV2
    BBC THREE
    BBC ALBA
    BBC FOUR
    Channel 4+1
    More 4
    E4
    STV+1
    CBBC Channel
    CBeebies
    BBC NEWS
    BBC Parliament
    BBC Red Button
    BBC RB 301
    BBC Radio 1
    BBC R1X
    BBC Radio 2
    BBC Radio 3
    BBC Radio 4
    BBC R5L
    BBC R5SX
    BBC 6 Music
    BBC Radio 4 Ex
    BBC Asian Net.
    BBC World Sv.
    BBC Radio Scotland
    BBC R n Gaidheal

    This is the the tempting Freeview line up, where I live, and just to sink the boot in, after 5pm Weekdays, and 4pm at the Weekend, if you’re listening to a Radio Station you have to hunt out your old tranny so I say LONG LIVE FREESAT.

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  46. miffo Says:

    @ Michael 40… I get that.. I was trying to establish the channel numbers (5000s), rather than frequency, as Freetime will not list as the G1 box did, nor is it viewable in the guide. So, unless prepared to tune to each channel, I can’t find a way of knowing what channel is what. Any ideas?

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  47. Michael Says:

    Michael said: Yes, use non-Freesat mode and manually tune into required transponders.
    http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

    Actually, I should of added that once the non-freesat channels are added there is no actual channel list on the freetime box at this time.

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  48. miffo Says:

    Correct, there is no list, but channels do have (Humax assigned?) numbers starting at 5000.. This is what I was looking for.

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  49. alexander Says:

    I believe that the BBC has been work for the european HD channel ARTE. If so it could be tempted to join FREESAT!

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  50. Mike1099 Says:

    Best thing I ever did was to purchase a FREESAT box the only freeview channels I am getting are
    BBC ONE
    BBCTWO
    ITV
    S4C
    CH5
    ITV2
    BBC THREE
    CH4
    BBC FOUR
    Channel 4+1
    More 4
    E4
    ITV+1
    CBBC Channel
    CBeebies
    BBC NEWS
    BBC Parliament
    BBC Red Button
    BBC RB 301
    BBC Radio 1
    BBC R1X
    BBC Radio 2
    BBC Radio 3
    BBC Radio 4
    BBC R5L
    BBC R5SX
    BBC 6 Music
    BBC Radio 4 Ex
    BBC Asian Net.
    BBC World Sv.
    BBC Radio Wales
    BBC Radio Cymru

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  51. mike65 Says:

    Andy Clayton
    I’m slightly baffled by the calls for ITV to bring 2, 3 and 4 in HD to Freesat. I take the point that they’re part owners and should be supporting a platform they have a stake in but don’t they mostly show repeats of old content on those channels? A bit like the point someone made about CBS – not much to be gained in having it in HD. Having said that, I’m not the best person to comment. I don’t think I’ve ever watched ITV 2 and 3 and probably watch some football on ITV 4 about once a year. I’ll get my coat…

    ITV2 has plenty of recent HD material, ITV3 has film shot drama, ITV plenty HD sport and all three show feature films which are innately high definition, so there is good reason to have HD variants, its just a question of ITV showing willing when the contract with SKY comes up for renewal AFAIK.

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  52. Rosco Says:

    alexander said:
    I believe that the BBC has been work for the european HD channel ARTE. If so it could be tempted to join FREESAT!

    What ARTE would gain from it? – a shed load of extra costs for adding 28E to their transmission portfolio, for very little benefit. The audience figures would be very low as most of their progs are in French & German, and to be honest anyone who is vaguely interested can spend about 100 quid and get them off 19E instead.

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  53. Dave Says:

    Is the new major launch still happening soon it was mentioned few weeks ago ??

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  54. Richard Crichton Says:

    The £10 box for NowTV that Sly is launching also has Demand 5 yet the £214.90 Freetime box dosen’t. Something stinks there.

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  55. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    The £10 box for NowTV that Sly is launching also has Demand 5 yet the £214.90 Freetime box dosen’t. Something stinks there.

    Don’t forget Sky is subsidizing these boxes, they don’t also have ITV Player and 4OD on them so freesat have them against this cheap offering by digger!

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  56. Keith Cobby Says:

    Presumably the IPL cricket on ITV4 would be in HD?

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  57. alexander Says:

    Don’t forget that ARTE is a culture channel which FREESAT doe’s not have. There must be spare space to include the english language if not on 19e pan-european then ask if they will join FREESAT. Then it could still carry the french & german soundtrack for any ex-pats.

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  58. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said: Don’t forget Sky is subsidizing these boxes, they don’t also have ITV Player and 4OD on them so freesat have them against this cheap offering by digger!

    Get Sky Sports for a bargain £3640 a year via NowTv :D

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  59. Richard Crichton Says:

    alexander said:
    Don’t forget that ARTE is a culture channel which FREESAT doe’s not have. There must be spare space to include the english language if not on 19e pan-european then ask if they will join FREESAT. Then it could still carry the french & german soundtrack for any ex-pats.

    Freesat had The Space connected culture channel for over a year but there wasn’t enough demand (apparently) so it’s gone.

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  60. Richard Crichton Says:

    Keith Cobby said:
    Presumably the IPL cricket on ITV4 would be in HD?

    Indeed it would if ITV cared about Freesat more than their bottom line which seems unlikely until Freesat has many more viewers.

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  61. A. noyed Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Freesat had The Space connected culture channel for over a year but there wasn’t enough demand (apparently) so it’s gone.

    One of the reasons for lack of demand, was that it was never made available on the new freetime boxes!

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  62. alexander Says:

    Once the new satellites are in full operation then i am sure more channels will ether join or rejoin.

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  63. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Indeed it would if ITV cared about Freesat more than their bottom line which seems unlikely until Freesat has many more viewers.

    There’s a glimmer of hope Richard if ITV get on-board the new DTT HD Mux’s but we’ll have to wait and see.

    I watched a bit of Arise this morning and the channel has now got a daytime anchor with rolling news and sport so is slowly coming together as a full-time news channel. We might see this on the platform this week as it’s launch must now be imminent.

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  64. Rosco Says:

    alexander said:
    Once the new satellites are in full operation then i am sure more channels will ether join or rejoin.

    Dont bet on it – theres plenty of capacity on Astra 2F to have additional spotbeam frequencies up and running *right now* if the broadcasters so wanted it.

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  65. Dave Says:

    Is there any now channels coming soon , I have heard about Arise HD on here not my cup of tea but some people may like it ,

    So is there any real channels coming soon ??????????

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  66. Dipper Says:

    Big Adam said: Errr, I think you are forgetting to multiply by the number of viewers?
    D’oh!

    So if all 60 odd million of the UK population watched 1 hour of news then that would be, “60 million hours of news coverage”. Good old statistics!

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  67. alexander Says:

    It would be nice if EUROSPORT HD & EUROSPORT NEWS HD were to join FREESAT, They would encourage UKTV to show their own channels such as dave, gold, alibi, yesterday, edan and watch.

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  68. Anthony Says:

    CBS channels would be nice in HD but there is hardly anything in HD to show on it;most of the backcatalogue (except 35mm film to PAL videotape copies for broadcast) is mainly old NTSC-PAL standards converted analogue videotape shows which when broadcast in DVB MPEG2 format on satellite/cable/terrestrial look gritty very bitty and quite noisy.

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  69. Richard Crichton Says:

    alexander said:
    It would be nice if EUROSPORT HD & EUROSPORT NEWS HD were to join FREESAT, They would encourage UKTV to show their own channels such as dave, gold, alibi, yesterday, edan and watch.

    It would be nice if lots of pay channels joined Freesat but it aint going to happen unless Freesat gets 10 million viewers which is very unlikely before Digger tv goes bust.

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  70. John Says:

    Glyn said:
    More choice of freetime set top boxes need, i bought a humax freetime box very buggy had take it back to store. I have had a freesat humax box for many years an it is brilliant. I think its been rushed on to the market without testing.

    My Humax freetime box is running perfectly with the latest software update. I was expecting god knows what with all the positive AND negative reviews. There seems to have been a few with HDD problems, but I’ve for my fingers crossed this will stay as good as it has been. I’m impressed after ditching SKY

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  71. Neil Says:

    PSB broadcasters have a small victory today, particularly the BBC and ITV, as the DCMS have published a document detailing forthcoming consultation where they plan to force Sky to scrap all retransmission fees for PSB’s, currently worth £9.5m/yr to Sky and will put some dosh back in to the PSB’s coffers. It’s absurd that Sky charge this amount to PSB’s and so it’s going to change.

    The report is here for anyone interested:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/225783/Connectivity_Content_and_Consumers_2013.pdf

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  72. Rosco Says:

    alexander said:
    It would be nice if EUROSPORT HD & EUROSPORT NEWS HD were to join FREESAT, They would encourage UKTV to show their own channels such as dave, gold, alibi, yesterday, edan and watch.

    Never going to happen via satellite. Theres only 1 fta version of Eurosport in the whole of Europe, and thats a historical accident (Germany). Sports coverage is expensive even for the reasonably minority sports ES covers.

    And you are whistling in the wind for the UKTV stuff.

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  73. Rosco Says:

    Dave said:
    Is there any now channels coming soon , I have heard about Arise HD on here not my cup of tea but some people may like it ,
    So is there any real channels coming soon ??????????

    What – the 5 forthcoming BBC HD channels not enough for you?

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  74. David Pugh Says:

    Hi I want The Box and Kerrang to be 16:9 not 4:3 on freesat+ boxes. I want Box television to adjust these channels please.

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  75. alexander Says:

    Don’t forget that BT SPORT has taken half of SKY’s sport system including sport1, sport2 and ESPN.

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  76. Rosco Says:

    David Pugh said:
    Hi I want The Box and Kerrang to be 16:9 not 4:3 on freesat+ boxes. I want Box television to adjust these channels please.

    Why dont you contact them via their website(s) – no point whinging on here, its nowt to do with Freesat – its the channels responsibility what comes out of their playout suites!

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  77. Rosco Says:

    alexander said:
    Don’t forget that BT SPORT has taken half of SKY’s sport system including sport1, sport2 and ESPN.

    Err no they havent – your maths is well awry….. The only channel BT could even vaguely have said to have “taken away from Sky” is ESPN – the two BT channels are newly launched services

    Anyway whats this got to do with Freesat? The BT stuff is encrypted :D

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  78. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said:
    PSB broadcasters have a small victory today, particularly the BBC and ITV, as the DCMS have published a document detailing forthcoming consultation where they plan to force Sky to scrap all retransmission fees for PSB’s, currently worth £9.5m/yr to Sky and will put some dosh back in to the PSB’s coffers. It’s absurd that Sky charge this amount to PSB’s and so it’s going to change.
    The report is here for anyone interested:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/225783/Connectivity_Content_and_Consumers_2013.pdf

    Good news if it happens but Sky should be paying for the PSB channels. Why should they get them for nothing? After all they are the most watched channels on their rip off platform.

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  79. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Good news if it happens but Sky should be paying for the PSB channels. Why should they get them for nothing? After all they are the most watched channels on their rip off platform.

    Couldn’t agree more, good to see this is a start but will be something I’ll raise when they ask for respondents to their consultation. Charging the PSB’s would, to me, give reasonable compensation to them for the fact they’ve been ripped off by Sky for platform inclusion for the last 10 or so years.

    At least Sky will take a £9.5m hit, they’ll have to claw that back from their dear subscribers in the form of further subs hikes!

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  80. alexander Says:

    Doe’s this mean that PSB AMERICA will join FREESAT instead of paying SKY for coverage.

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  81. Neil Says:

    alexander said:
    Doe’s this mean that PSB AMERICA will join FREESAT instead of paying SKY for coverage.

    No, they are encrypted to make money from abroad (i.e. here in the UK).

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  82. Chris Guest Says:

    Regarding PSB’s and retransmission fees…

    The following item reveals that as much a three-quarters of Sky subscribers watch non-pay channels provided by the main terrestrial broadcasters. It is quite telling that of the remaining quarter of paid-for channels, loyalty to any one channels is quite low (and 5% of that is for fta channel viewing).

    http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051881

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  83. alexander Says:

    RTE / TV3 INTERNATIONAL

    Is it posible for the above broadcasters to join force and show both their own programes together on a pan-european footspot that cover’s ireland and uk.

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  84. Steve Says:

    My question to Freesat is how many of its customers have bt broadband/ infinity. Is this something that could be free for those sports fans!!!!

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  85. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neat list of non Freesat mode channels. Saves trawling through all the rubbish.
    http://channelwiki.x10.mx/wiki/List_of_channels_on_Freesat_(UK)#Non-Freesat_Mode

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  86. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    Neat list of non Freesat mode channels. Saves trawling through all the rubbish.
    http://channelwiki.x10.mx/wiki/List_of_channels_on_Freesat_(UK)#Non-Freesat_Mode

    Looks good. I put an update in the future changes section for the forthcoming addition of Arise News.

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  87. Al (Original) Says:

    Kevin McFarlane said:

    CBS channels in HD? No doubt, some think those channels are rubbish but each to their own.

    CBS channels do have some good content but are let down by poor PQ and constant repeats.

    The biggest trouble is all the repeats and they’ve dropped new content from some of the best shows such as Bondi Rescue.

    I used to watch CBS Reality a lot. Now I watch Judge Judy when there’s nothing else on and that’s about it.

    Cops is great but its nearly always repeats – 1 new series a year.

    Bondi Rescue is great – but now its just the old series repeated over and over again as they’ve stopped buying the new series. So same series over and over again for the last 2-3 years.

    If CBS ever want to popularise their channels and get higher up the EPG, they really need to provide more new content on Reality.

    It seems the money is now getting spent on Sc-Fi on CBS Action instead and nothing new is coming onto Reality. Great if you’re a Trekkie, not so great if you’re not.

    I hardly ever watch Reality any more whereas previously it was my favourite channel.

    CBS also own the Extreme Channel but still choose to hide this behind Pay TV on Sky despite huge demand for Sport on Freesat.

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  88. Al (Original) Says:

    Andy Clayton said:
    Darth @ 17 – who knows? This is the first indication (as far as I’m aware) that we’ve had from Freesat directly that some kind of “remote app” is on the cards. It could just be some kind of remote control app (which wouldn’t be anything to write home about, frankly) but out of small acorns etc. We’ll just have to watch this space and see what happens!
    I’m slightly baffled by the calls for ITV to bring 2, 3 and 4 in HD to Freesat. I take the point that they’re part owners and should be supporting a platform they have a stake in but don’t they mostly show repeats of old content on those channels? A bit like the point someone made about CBS – not much to be gained in having it in HD. Having said that, I’m not the best person to comment. I don’t think I’ve ever watched ITV 2 and 3 and probably watch some football on ITV 4 about once a year. I’ll get my coat…
    How do Freesat come up with their figures? I guess it can only be through sales of Freesat enabled equipment. STB’s is fair enough – you’re hardly likely to buy a STB and then not use it, but Freesat enabled TV’s are another matter. You might buy one and then hook up an inferior platform (like $ky, Virgin Media or YouView/Freeview). I wonder what percentage of the figures are STB sales?

    There are some good films and football on those channels occasionally though, so worth having for that.

    Maybe if ITV can sell ITV to Sky instead of them having to give it away for free, (see PSB retransmission fees debate), they might be in a position to put 2,3,4 HD on Freesat for free.

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  89. Neil Says:

    I think now that the BBC have made a commitment to put all their channels in HD FTA on all platforms, considering they are ITV’s closest competitor on all platforms too then I think the chances of ITV’s 2 – 4 HD going FTA is now a higher probability than any time in the last three years of the channels existence. Not saying it’s a dead cert but HD is maturing and with BBC Three soon to be available nationally on all platforms, including their PSB3 HD mux on DTT, then there’s hope! Would be a good ccommitment to their support of freesat too.

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  90. Rosco Says:

    alexander said:
    RTE / TV3 INTERNATIONAL
    Is it posible forthe above broadcasters to join force and show both their own programes together on a pan-european footspot that cover’s ireland and uk.

    No chance whatsoever bud, RTE is about bankrupt – they were going to launch an international service a couple of years back, but it got scrapped due to their financial crisis.

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  91. Anthony Says:

    Rosco said: No chance whatsoever bud, RTE is about bankrupt – they were going to launch an international service a couple of years back, but it got scrapped due to their financial crisis.

    Yeah I remember the proposed RTE International service;it was going to launch free-to-air on Freesat/Sky via Eurobird1 on the fixed Western and Central European footprint serving the UK Ireland and much of continental mainland Europe. It would have been interesting.

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  92. Dave Says:

    I see demand 5 is now on freesat hurray

    Well done freesat just a few more entertainment channels and then we’re sorted

    I was gonna list the channels I would like to see but thought better off it :-)

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  93. Rosco Says:

    Anthony said: Yeah I remember the proposed RTE International service;it was going to launch free-to-air on Freesat/Sky via Eurobird1 on the fixed Western and Central European footprint serving the UK Ireland and much of continental mainland Europe. It would have been interesting.

    Yeah well its not going to happen anytime soon so theres no point fretting about it.

    You can always watch The Holiday & Cruise Channel instead – launches on Freesat 409 on 27th Aug. :D

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  94. alexander Says:

    Rosco said: Yeah well its not going to happen anytime soon so theres no point fretting about it.
    You can always watch The Holiday & Cruise Channel instead – launches on Freesat 409 on 27th Aug.

    could RTE , TV3 and SETENA join up for 28e?

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  95. Rosco Says:

    alexander said: could RTE , TV3 and SETENA join up for 28e?

    No chance whatsoever

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  96. Rosco Says:

    Assume you meant FS rather than 28E – they are already on 28E! :D

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  97. alexander Says:

    ASTRA appear’s to be testing a Ka band on the new 2E pointing at the UK. Doe’s anyone know if the BBC are running test’s on this band ?

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  98. Shelly Says:

    I am so pleased with Freesat. I can take a holiday with the money I am saving after cancelling my Sky contract.

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