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Oct 16 2012

Humax release first Freesat <free time> boxThe first of the next generation Freesat <free time> boxes launches this week, with Humax leading the way. The HDR-1000S will be available in-stores from tomorrow as well as available to buy online.

The new product with more focus on interactive services, including the 7 day roll-back TV guide, plus access to on-demand, has received a lot of attention over the past few weeks, and expectations are that it will be a great success.

The main retailers stocking this item can be found on our Humax HDR-1000S product page should you wish to be one of the first to get your hands on the new device.

The only disappointing thing we have come across so far is that Humax have introduced a new distribution policy which means many of the smaller retailers and installers won’t be able to get their hands on them, and in turn, won’t be able to offer you the best prices. For now you will have to buy from the major retailers at the rrp price.

More information on <free time> can be found here, as well as details of the new Humax receiver, and useful questions answered.

Don’t forget to let us know your opinions of the new receiver once you have it, and leave a review on the product page.

Edit: 18/10/12

Humax have been reading the comments regarding the new distribution policy and would like to add the following statement:

Humax has a newly-implemented distribution policy, which is designed to ensure a consistent quality approach to sales and promotion for our products and the best possible experience for consumers. The approved distribution network is open for retailers of any size who meet the criteria, including independents who remain a valued part of our distribution strategy. We expect distribution of the HDR-1000S to expand across more retail partners in the coming weeks

74 Responses to “Humax release first Freesat <free time> box”

  1. Wouter Says:

    great, but it is still not possible to adjust channel order (i.e. I would like BBC1 HD on 101, and ITV1 HD on 103, etc.

    does anyone if the remove sensitivity has been resolved?

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  2. bob Says:

    Isn’t the model HDR-1000S?

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  3. admin Says:

    bob said:
    Isn’t the model HDR-1000S?

    Good spot, have called it both in the post. Now changed. :)

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  4. Tony Says:

    Hi ,
    For those interested I have just seen this advertised at £239.99 from a internet site from Bolton. Am I ok to post the link admin ?.. Thought I better check first

    Best Regards

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  5. admin Says:

    Tony said:
    Hi ,
    For those interested I have just seen this advertised at £239.99 from a internet site from Bolton. Am I ok to post the link admin ?.. Thought I better check first
    Best Regards

    A certain company with a P and D in their name! Sorry, no links to this company, it isn’t even clear they are likely to get stock given Humax’s distribution policy.

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  6. Tony Says:

    Ok ,
    Good job I checked ! Iv’e not dealt with them before, so was unsure.

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  7. IrishMJ Says:

    I thought that channel numbers issue had been discussed to death at this stage…

    If a user is allowed to change channel numbers to whatever they want, how can a channel advertise the fact that they are on Freesat Channel 103 and so on…..

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  8. Wouter Says:

    @IrishMJ, I might have missed it, as I have not been following the discussions that closely lately. Apologies.
    (just to comment, as I can’t resist, advertisers should advertise a broadcaster/channel (i.e. ITV1, BBC3) rather that a number. it is simply not user friendly. If you have to remember to watch a program tonight on tv, you are more likely to remember BBC3 instead of channel 109 (or whatever that number is).

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  9. IrishMJ Says:

    Sorry Wouter, my response probably came across a bit harsh. The discussion was had way back in the annals of history when Freesat was launched.

    I understand exactly what you are saying. I have both Freesat and FTA boxes and the ability to sort channels as I want them and not as someone else wants them is excellent.

    But, whilst I understand it and do it myself, I also understand why it is the way it is….

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  10. Neil Says:

    Can’t wait to have a play with one of these new models, will give youview a good run for their money (which it seems isn’t hard to do at present) whilst buying in to a platform with future-proofing as opposed to freeview!

    Obviously Sky new this product was on its way hence their very prominent marketing campaign at the moment featuring personalities (they probably paid a fortune to) advertising how good Sky+ and catch-up is. They don’t tell you you’ll have to pay for the privilege of recording live TV, still one of freesat’s best selling points!

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  11. Soldierboy 001 Says:

    Neil, It’s knew not new old boy.

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  12. chris Balmer Says:

    My sky contract comes to an end in a month and this looks like a good solution .
    I like the youview model but I want it down a dish so my options are limited to one box!
    I would honestly like a comparable (hello Manhattan) or I suspect many will wait until a price fall given the free view equivalent boxes are being given away for free by bt and talk not. (pun intended).
    Its worth pointing out that for £149 you can now get a fox sat hd r from humax directly which although graded is good value for money.
    admin , box chance of a competition to win one!?
    Well if you don’t ask you don’t get..

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  13. Dave Says:

    @neil I agree with everything you say
    I did once have SKY TV they are a rip off . They say the box is yours but after the 12 mts if you wanna leave they take the recorder function off you even though people have probably paid for the box in there subscription ..
    That’s dodgy sky
    I new have the humax fox sat HDR but will be upgrading to this new box

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  14. robert o mahony Says:

    will we be able to get in Ireland :)

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  15. admin Says:

    chris Balmer said:
    admin , box chance of a competition to win one!?
    Well if you don’t ask you don’t get..

    Seems unlikely, still waiting for one to review!!!

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  16. Lee S Says:

    If you read the small print on all the latest sky ads it states 4od and demand 5 expected 2013!! It also states BBC iplayer for late 2012. Guess Freesat is ahead of the game ;)

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  17. Derek Says:

    Before everyone gets too excited, can I remind you that the Panasonic box started at virtually £1000 with certain retailers, and towards the end of it’s life could be obtained for £350.

    If there is a restricted distribution policy on the Humax, the answer is simple. Don’t buy it. I wonder what the Office of Fair Trading thinks of such arrangements?

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  18. admin Says:

    Derek said:
    If there is a restricted distribution policy on the Humax, the answer is simple.Don’t buy it.I wonder what the Office of Fair Trading thinks of such arrangements?

    Wouldn’t know the legalities of it, but I guess as the manufacturer they can sell to whom they like.

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  19. Neil Says:

    chris Balmer said:
    My sky contract comes to an end in a month and this looks like a good solution .
    I like the youview model but I want it down a dish so my options are limited to one box!
    I would honestly like a comparable (hello Manhattan) or I suspect many will wait until a price fall given the free view equivalent boxes are being given away for free by bt and talk not. (pun intended).Its worth pointing out that for £149 you can now get a fox sat hd r from humax directly which although graded is good value for money.
    admin , box chance of a competition to win one!?
    Well if you don’t ask you don’t get..

    If the Netflix rumours are true it will bolster freesat’s offering even further.

    Soldierboy 001 said:
    Neil, It’s knew not new old boy.

    Slip of the keyboard!!

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  20. Glyn Says:

    Before I upgrade, can someone please advise if this box works with a Talktalk connection, given that streaming is an issue via Talktalk on several devices? Thanks

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  21. Roger Says:

    Looks useful, I suppose the best thing is to wait and let all the bleeding-edge/OohShiny! adopters find all the bugs and gotchas, And after Xmas, it’ll come down in price as more value distributors get their hands on some stock.

    And there may also be more competitor offerings on the market too.

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  22. Stephen K Says:

    Apologies if this is the wrong thread but can anyone confirm which, if any, of the catchup feeds are to be available in HD?
    Thanks.

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  23. al storey Says:

    why is my reply not published ?????

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  24. Derek Says:

    Glyn said:
    Before I upgrade, can someone please advise if this box works with a Talktalk connection, given that streaming is an issue via Talktalk on several devices? Thanks

    Glyn. We probably can’t answer your question as this appears to be an internet issue rather than anything related to the new equipment. The speed of your internet depends on so many factors both inside and outside your home. As a rule of thumb, internet by cable (as opposed to a telephone line) will always be faster if you live in a cabled area. Inside your home a hard wired connection will ALWAYS be better than Wi-Fi or those truly dreadful PLA devices.

    Don’t buy the box yet – the price is being controlled.

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  25. Night Watchman Says:

    Wouter… it is simply not user friendly.If you have to remember to watch a program tonight on tv, you are more likely to remember BBC3 instead of channel 109 (or whatever that number is).

    Although you still can’t change the channel number order Humax have now substituted Channel Icons/Logos for the channel numbers so this makes it quite easy to quickly identify individual channels in a list.

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  26. Glyn Says:

    Derek said: Glyn.We probably can’t answer your question as this appears to be an internet issue rather than anything related to the new equipment.The speed of your internet depends on so many factors both inside and outside your home.As a rule of thumb, internet by cable (as opposed to a telephone line) will always be faster if you live in a cabled area.Inside your home a hard wired connection will ALWAYS be better than Wi-Fi or those truly dreadful PLA devices.
    Don’t buy the box yet – the price is being controlled.

    Derek
    I ask the question, as I don’t want to buy a box which may/may not work with my ISP. It is well documented that Sony, LG and other TV devices have problems buffering using Talktalk. It is not a question of speed (I have 40mb fibre), more of a software issue. I am simply waiting for someone to say that it works without the buffering bug, before I commit. Thanks though and I shall wait for the price to come down.

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  27. admin Says:

    al storey said:
    why is my reply not published ?????

    Because you decided to curse and swear about Freesat, basically because it shows films from the past (huh?!?!)

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  28. Derek Says:

    Glyn said: Derek
    I ask the question, as I don’t want to buy a box which may/may not work with my ISP.It is well documented that Sony, LG and other TV devices have problems buffering using Talktalk.It is not a question of speed (I have 40mb fibre), more of a software issue.I am simply waiting for someone to say that it works without the buffering bug, before I commit.Thanks though and I shall wait for the price to come down.

    So therefore you have an internet issue, which is nothing to do with any manufacturer that you may connect to your hub.

    Sorry, but I am not sure this is the place to complain about Talktalk, if indeed they are the source of your problem.

    I have (separate) connections to Virgin and Talktalk and have not had the buffering issue you describe, although Virgin is certainly faster.

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  29. Derek Says:

    Just to clarify my comment above, the fact that you have purchased 40MB does not mean that you are receiving it.

    I would have a very close look at your connection (both external speed and inside your home) to make sure you are getting what you paid for, and that your internal connections are in order.

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  30. Glyn Says:

    Derek
    I get a consistant 26mb download speed on my 40mb line, more than sufficient to stream HD to several home devices. The fact that there are several manufactures whose software conflicts with that of Talktalk has led me to ask the question. I am certainly not alone with these issues. I do not feel that I have been ‘complaining’ about anything and yes! – it may well be an issue with Talktalk. That said, my Foxsat has never had any issues streaming. So, fingers crossed, nor will this new box.

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  31. Stuart Says:

    This new distribution policy has really angered me. I have been sitting patiently waiting for this box before I jump into Freesat and ditch Sky. It looks great, I like Humax boxes and I was ready to commit to buying this box.

    HOWEVER. And this is a big however. If a company which we’re not mentioning on here can offer a box significantly cheaper compared to its competitors then in all honesty my purchase is going to be driven by price not company loyalty. Admin, I know there are site sponsorship agreements and I completely respect these. I also totally understand your position on this and respect that in turn. I’m still looking for the bottom line when it comes to pricing.

    If it is true that Humax does indeed have a restricted distribution policy that prevents smaller (and possibly cheaper) outlets retailing this unit then that is anti-competitive. Not only will the Office of Fair Trading want an explanation from Humax if this is the case, EU legislation has prohibited such practices where it could be damaging to market competition within Article 101 (more info here: http://ec.europa.eu/competition/antitrust/overview_en.html ).

    I sincerely hope there has either been some mistake, or this is a very short term arrangement of say a couple of weeks to allow priority clients to get their hands on stock. If this isn’t a mistake and this is a long term arrangement I will ask my MEP to refer this position to the EC to ascertain if Humax has taken an illegal position.

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  32. IrishMJ Says:

    Robert, I would imagine that some of the local sat shops will stock it, but the majority of the functions will be of no use here in Ireland. I would presume that all the IPTV functions will be geolocked to the UK.

    You can of course get around that by using a VPN service, but you’ll have to look elsewhere for info on that.

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  33. admin Says:

    Stuart, the distribution policy doesn’t prevent independent retailers, but certainly restricts the chances of gaining approval through a number of tight criteria they have put in place. It is likely that small shops will gain approval, as they can showcase the products and promote Humax in a way they want, but it seems that apart from Humax direct, and a few major retailers, no one else has received stock yet (certainly not through the assigned distributors). If you can wait to buy, then hopefully prices will reflect the company you mentioned more than the current rrp. Not sure it is against anti-competitive laws though.

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  34. Stuart Says:

    Thanks for your take on things admin. I am not sure of the exact policy Humax has for distribution and have not been able to find it online, but I will give it a week and see what happens – if stock doesn’t appear to be filtering through I will progress this as Humax being anti-competitive as the position outlined here would appear on the face of things to fit into the EU legislation I linked to in my earlier post.

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  35. Derek Says:

    Glyn said:
    Derek
    I get a consistant 26mb download speed on my 40mb line, more than sufficient to stream HD to several home devices.

    Fair enough, Glyn. However, most users nowadays will find that at peak times ISPs ration download speeds, to allow all users to share capacity fairly. Which is another way of saying that their network is not up to the job.

    You will find a clause buried deep in your terms and conditons (which no one ever reads) which allows them to do this, although strangely enough it is not specifically mentioned at the point of sale.

    Also “peak times” tends to be when you want to use it…..

    This could cause your blocking, but you say you always get a constant speed, so perhaps not.

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  36. Keith (original) Says:

    Since 4OD and Demand 5 are coming ‘soon’ – heard that somewhere before(!) – does this have any bearing on these services finally coming to the 1st generation Freesat boxes such as the Humax-HDR, or are they now dropping that?

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  37. Richard Crichton Says:

    Glyn said:
    Before I upgrade, can someone please advise if this box works with a Talktalk connection, given that streaming is an issue via Talktalk on several devices? Thanks

    BBC iPlayer works fine with no buffering on my 3.55mbps TalkTalk line through a Manhattan HD-S. However they have a policy of throttling p2p/Bittorrent traffic till after midnight. Their fair use policy states””Currently, TalkTalk Customers have no restrictions on Bittorrent or other file sharing activity between midnight and 3pm. At peak times, however some TalkTalk Customers can still use those services but they may find Bittorrent or file sharing is a little slower as we limit the amount of this traffic to ensure we can maintain a high quality Internet service for all our Customers. However, all TalkTalk Customers have no restrictions on time-critical web traffic such as surfing, gaming, streaming content from applications like BBC iPlayer or using VOIP packages like Skype at any time.”

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  38. Oyodi Says:

    I see Free View are being sensible by moving their HD channels this week to 101,102,103,104 so why can’t Free Sat do the same!
    It’s much more convenient when the HD channels are all together and not mixed in with all the dross.

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  39. Glyn Says:

    Derek/Richard
    The Talktalk problem appears to be related to pre 2012 model LG Smart TVs concerning streaming iplayer. Mine is a 2012 model but both this TV and my Samsung 3d bluray player buffer their respective youtube apps poorly. I have no problem on either device with iplayer, nor lovefilm. My original question was ‘does the box function correctly with a Talktalk connection?’ I’m sure it probably does, but would like to know from an early adopter. By the way, my line may drop to around 22mb during peak hours. I certainly will not be taking the free ‘youview’ box from Talktalk.

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  40. Tony Says:

    @ Stuart 34 – Let’s face it, if Humax are going to tighten their belts on who does and who doesn’t sell the new box in fairness they are not the only one’s doing it. I work in sales and could, but won’t mention several other companies which work exactly the same. And in some cases I don’t blame them.

    The problem being too many smaller shops and eb@y shops selling new stock at under the rrp price which makes all larger companies suffer. There has been an still is uproar about sales on the internet and people who keep dropping prices to ridiculously low prices. I know of several people who just box shift and make as little as £10 per box because they have no overheads, rent , rates , staff etc… It’s killing retail.

    I understand you where your coming from like many others we want a good deal but the high street in general is suffering.

    Best Regards
    Tony

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  41. admin Says:

    It’s a good point well made Tony, and whilst I agree with you, the high street is suffering as a result of technology changes in the past 10 years; Ecommerce is so popular now that consumers don’t really want to go out and buy; and lets not forget that most of the high street shops (certainly the majors) don’t do themselves any favours by employing staff with little interest/enthusiasm, or knowledge for the products. If smaller online retailers want to make small profits, fair enough, but equally respecting the brand you are selling is important. Lest not forget that most of the major retailers have smaller ‘online’ only shops selling at much lower prices; Comet being a perfect example with Laskys.There are however a number of ebay sellers pushing products at unachievable prices, i.e. take away vat, fees etc and they are selling for less than they buy; and unfortunately these cases are what cause manufacturers to get very picky with who they sell to.

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  42. Richard Crichton Says:

    Glyn said:
    Derek/Richard
    The Talktalk problem appears to be related to pre 2012 model LG Smart TVs concerning streaming iplayer.Mine is a 2012 model but both this TV and my Samsung 3d bluray player buffer their respective youtube apps poorly. I have no problem on either device with iplayer, nor lovefilm.My original question was ‘does the box function correctly with a Talktalk connection?’I’m sure it probably does, but would like to know from an early adopter.By the way, my line may drop to around 22mb during peak hours. I certainly will not be taking the free ‘youview’ box from Talktalk.

    Glyn Youtube works fine on my Samsung smart Blu-ray as does Aol video app.
    Can’t help you with Freetime but I’m having my youview box from TT installed tomorrow afternoon as part of my phone and broadband upgrade if that’s any help. I know there are problems at the moment but I’m banking on them being able to sort them out.

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  43. Richard Crichton Says:

    Oyodi said:
    I see Free View are being sensible by moving their HD channels this week to 101,102,103,104 so why can’t Free Sat do the same!
    It’s much more convenient when the HD channels are all together and not mixed in with all the dross.

    Putting the HD channels right next to the slapper channels is sensible?

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  44. Derek (original) Says:

    Tony said:
    I know of several people who just box shift and make as little as £10 per box because they have no overheads, rent , rates , staff etc… It’s killing retail.

    Not killing it Tony, just changing the face of it

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  45. admin Says:

    Statement from Humax regarding the distribution policy:

    Humax has a newly-implemented distribution policy, which is designed to ensure a consistent quality approach to sales and promotion for our products and the best possible experience for consumers. The approved distribution network is open for retailers of any size who meet the criteria, including independents who remain a valued part of our distribution strategy. We expect distribution of the HDR-1000S to expand across more retail partners in the coming weeks

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  46. Stuart Says:

    Where can we see this new distribution policy? I really fail to see how restricting distribution enhances consumer experience but I easily see how the market can potentially be manipulated in such a scenario.

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  47. Gareth Phillips Says:

    I got my Freetime box yesterday, and set it all up. Generally I am very happy with it. The interface looks fantastic, although it isnt as quick as I would have liked. As with any new system (and I am new to Freesat) there are a few criticisms, but the thing that really annoys me is that the radio stations are thrown into the guide in amongst TV stations, and I just cannot understand why. When scrolling to the end of the guide, you would assume you have reached the end of the TV channels when you come across Radio 1 etc, but scrolling furthur down reveals more TV once the radio stations end. What is the rationale for this?

    Id rather hide Radio from the guide completely, as I’ve never wanted it there anyhow. Is there a way to do this?

    In my opinion the radio should be at the end of the guide, or ideally, in a separate filter list which is accessed via a tab or something. Also the audio only channels could do with a different colour highlight to distinguish them from TV.

    Very strange

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  48. admin Says:

    Gareth Phillips said:
    but the thing that really annoys me is that the radio stations are thrown into the guide in amongst TV stations

    That is the case with all Freesat receivers, as the radio channels have been assigned the 7xx range.

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  49. Richard Crichton Says:

    Gareth Phillips said”Id rather hide Radio from the guide completely, as I’ve never wanted it there anyhow. Is there a way to do this?”

    Don’t know about Humax but you can delete channels from the guide on the Manhattan HD-S. That is a well thought out box.

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  50. Clive Says:

    Does this new box work using one sat cable or do you still need two?

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  51. Gareth Phillips Says:

    admin said: That is the case with all Freesat receivers, as the radio channels have been assigned the 7xx range.

    That is ridiculous, I don’t get the rationale for that whatsoever!

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  52. admin Says:

    Gareth Phillips said: That is ridiculous, I don’t get the rationale for that whatsoever!

    I suspect most will deem that radio channels are more important than shopping, adult and regional channels, which is why they are ordered as they are.

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  53. Neil Says:

    admin said: I suspect most will deem that radio channels are more important than shopping, adult and regional channels, which is why they are ordered as they are.

    I agree too, more listen to radio than do watch the TV channels above and this is the same on all freesat EPG’s. Does the new freetime STB cache the EPG like the HD/HDR or does it do real-time updates (without the overnight housekeeping necessity)?

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  54. admin Says:

    Neil said: I agree too, more listen to radio than do watch the TV channels above and this is the same on all freesat EPG’s. Does the new freetime STB cache the EPG like the HD/HDR or does it do real-time updates (without the overnight housekeeping necessity)?

    It uses a dynamic system so immediate updates.

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  55. Neil Says:

    That’s good, means EPG updates can be done and happen real time which was the only limitation to the HD and HDR’s, still though by far was one of the best PVR’s on the market up until Manhattan released their PVR and the new freetime unit arrived.

    All we need now is a good freesat ad campaign for autumn/winter to promote freetime – I’m not holding my breath though!

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  56. Martin Says:

    Clive said:
    Does this new box work using one sat cable or do you still need two?

    No you need two cables that’s why I opted for youviwe and kep my old goodmans freesat box

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  57. antony Says:

    I am still going to wait for the 1TB box and that all the demand channels promised are up and running

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  58. al catraz Says:

    despite Humax’s efforts, there is a way to get this box a bit cheaper

    [admin]comment removed[/admin]

    5% discount seems to be independent of cashback site – just use code “5COMET” at the checkout.

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  59. admin Says:

    al catraz said:
    [admin]comment removed[/admin]

    Sorry al, but given the way this site operates for funding/hosting, that method wouldn’t benefit the running of the site ;)

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  60. al catraz Says:

    oops – didn’t think of that – sorry!

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  61. Stuart Says:

    I am sitting tight for a few weeks, just got an email back from one retailer who has said expect stock in first two weeks of November. Their prices are well below the big name prices.

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  62. Rob Jarvis Says:

    Plugged in this new box this morning. Easy to setup. Initial comments:
    1. The picture in the manual on page 24 shows a general freesat box. On the Humax box, there is HDMI, Ethernet, USB, SPDIF, A/V, 1xSCART,2xSat.
    2. I have only one Sat cable and it seems to work fine. Obviously I cannot record one channel while watching another.
    3. The List button on the remote doesn’t do anything, despite the manual stating it should.
    4. I can set up favourite channels but I have no idea how to access them. The manual doesn’t make any reference to favourites.
    5. Small point: I don’t like the ‘clickyness’ of some of the buttons. Some click when pressed, others don’t.
    6. Another even smaller point: The black glossy top of the box collects dust very quickly and doesn’t like to give it away.
    It all seems very straightforward at this stage but I would like to scroll through my favourite channels.

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  63. Rob Jarvis Says:

    I should have added – the manual seems to be a bit general. It doesn’t make any reference to the USB, SPDIF, SCART sockets. Neither does it mention anywhere about favourite channels.

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  64. Rob Jarvis Says:

    Further update: I figured out the List button & favourite channels. You have to enter the TV Guide first, then press List, then you can choose how to sort the channel list, one of which is the Favourites. Then the TV Guide will list just your favourite channels.
    I think this would be more useful if I could set up the favourites list as default, rather than having to go through the above process. Then I could scroll through my favourites channels using the P buttons.

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  65. james smith Says:

    Stuart
    Any chance of you nameing the retailer please?

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  66. admin Says:

    No wifi built-in for the 1TB version.

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  67. Stuart Says:

    James – unable to name the retailer as this site receives sponsorship via Satbuyer so it isn’t fair to them (and fair play, this is a good site and it’s up to admin how they keep the lights on). Google shopping provides many useful links if you catch my drift however.

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  68. FRANK Says:

    Hi everybody,I have just bought the 500g Gen 2 box and I am over the moon with it.
    I have done a lot of research on this box and found it very easy to use,piece of cake to set up , brilliant pic quality , as for the free time menu its very easy to record do series link and play back.I was going to get rid of the sky box , but there is a way of running the sky hd on 1 lnb which frees up 1 cable.Go in to (services) then to set up press 0 1 select to open a new menu, at the bottom it has (single feed mode) switch that on then select and the box will go into reboot. Make sure the lnb or sky cable is in the lnb 1 input at the back of machine.This will mean you can only record 1 channel at a time, so with the freesat that gives you 3 channels to record then.

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  69. Glyn White Says:

    Whilst wanting to carry on with Freesat, I find the price and promises prohibitive for the moment. So taking a year out with YouView and watching how it goes.

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  70. jon Says:

    hi just to note, the unamed retailer which i mentioned in an earlier post today delivered the 1tb model of the receiver to me. Seems the are a reliable company.

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  71. james smith Says:

    ref question 65
    Could the town of the masked seller be identified?
    I had a look for humax’s freetime box on google shopping
    Quite clearly a cartell run by a mob of crooks

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  72. Marky Says:

    Will they do an update of the firmware for the Foxsat hdr??

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  73. admin Says:

    Marky said:
    Will they do an update of the firmware for the Foxsat hdr??

    No, none of the g1 boxes can receive the new freetime service as it requires significantly improved chipsets etc.

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  74. Nick Says:

    Satbuyer are offering the 500gb at £249.95 delivered when using discount code FREETIME500GB.

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