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	<title>Comments on: iPlayer and Kangaroo through Freesat</title>
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		<title>By: DeadMeatGF</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/iplayer-and-kangaroo-through-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-15512</link>
		<dc:creator>DeadMeatGF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the amount of crying and whining going on here.

FreeSat was always built with the capability of having both free and pay services - in fact, if it didn&#039;t you&#039;d be moaning that you can&#039;t get channel whatever even though you&#039;re willing to pay for it.
Oooh - £30 for a wireless bridge. Well, don&#039;t pay it. Pay that much EVERY MONTH for Virgin and get the iPlayer built in. Without the need for ethernet or wifi.

My only experience of Kangaroo is a ppv service on handheld devices at Formula 1 - if this is free, great, if it&#039;s paid for I&#039;ll decide whether to watch on a case-by-case basis. I can&#039;t see it beating the existing BBC coverage, though.

iPlayer requires a 1Mb connection for SD, 2Mb for HD.

As for too expensive - I&#039;ve paid less than £500 for my complete setup - that&#039;s 4 boxes (2xSD, 1xHD &amp; 1xHDR) including installation (of an 8 LNB dish, so it&#039;s expandable)
Could you get 4 Wii/Freeview setups for that kind of money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the amount of crying and whining going on here.</p>
<p>FreeSat was always built with the capability of having both free and pay services &#8211; in fact, if it didn&#8217;t you&#8217;d be moaning that you can&#8217;t get channel whatever even though you&#8217;re willing to pay for it.<br />
Oooh &#8211; £30 for a wireless bridge. Well, don&#8217;t pay it. Pay that much EVERY MONTH for Virgin and get the iPlayer built in. Without the need for ethernet or wifi.</p>
<p>My only experience of Kangaroo is a ppv service on handheld devices at Formula 1 &#8211; if this is free, great, if it&#8217;s paid for I&#8217;ll decide whether to watch on a case-by-case basis. I can&#8217;t see it beating the existing BBC coverage, though.</p>
<p>iPlayer requires a 1Mb connection for SD, 2Mb for HD.</p>
<p>As for too expensive &#8211; I&#8217;ve paid less than £500 for my complete setup &#8211; that&#8217;s 4 boxes (2xSD, 1xHD &amp; 1xHDR) including installation (of an 8 LNB dish, so it&#8217;s expandable)<br />
Could you get 4 Wii/Freeview setups for that kind of money?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/iplayer-and-kangaroo-through-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-15369</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a WET54G to provide a connection for my tv when i got a big samsung led tv so a 4 port switch from my junk box added now supplys a connection to my Humax PVR all ready for iPlayer. So many wee flashing lights now its starting to look like the bridge of the USS Enterprise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a WET54G to provide a connection for my tv when i got a big samsung led tv so a 4 port switch from my junk box added now supplys a connection to my Humax PVR all ready for iPlayer. So many wee flashing lights now its starting to look like the bridge of the USS Enterprise!</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/iplayer-and-kangaroo-through-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-11868</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when is it comming i seen it on the websight i hope it is soon i wouldent mind paying for somthing to watch or for free  but it hasent got to be re runs  why pay for them when you paid for them the first time   maby some hd films  i would pay for  as long as there not exspensive but is this going to work or is it a spin off to get pepole to buy boxes for nothing but the same  it would work if bbc itv channel 4  bashed there heads together and worked they would make thinks that worked not drizzel because the swap and change seats  of get offerd a pay rise come on it is a good idea insted of selling it to sky and the likes  sell it to us because we pay sky and yous  for it any way through our tv licence and subscripctions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when is it comming i seen it on the websight i hope it is soon i wouldent mind paying for somthing to watch or for free  but it hasent got to be re runs  why pay for them when you paid for them the first time   maby some hd films  i would pay for  as long as there not exspensive but is this going to work or is it a spin off to get pepole to buy boxes for nothing but the same  it would work if bbc itv channel 4  bashed there heads together and worked they would make thinks that worked not drizzel because the swap and change seats  of get offerd a pay rise come on it is a good idea insted of selling it to sky and the likes  sell it to us because we pay sky and yous  for it any way through our tv licence and subscripctions</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/iplayer-and-kangaroo-through-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sense a game-change a-comin&#039; OOH ya! 

Sky are going to get hopping mad about this for one thing, and the ISPs are also going to use this as another weapon in their fight to destroy the Beeb! Let&#039;s hope they don&#039;t win or consumers are going to be royally shafted I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sense a game-change a-comin&#8217; OOH ya! </p>
<p>Sky are going to get hopping mad about this for one thing, and the ISPs are also going to use this as another weapon in their fight to destroy the Beeb! Let&#8217;s hope they don&#8217;t win or consumers are going to be royally shafted I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/iplayer-and-kangaroo-through-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 09:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IPlayer would be great. Most of what I record is for viewing within a few days and I&#039;ve got EOPL access close by (Squeezebox etc). I wonder what the picture quality of iPlayer streaming would be?

PS. Got the Humax HD box yesterday evening  from my local Comet - they said it was the last one of 15 they&#039;d had in that day!

Not had time to play with it too much, but picture quality seems impressive, including the upscaled SD. There were some odd effects in parts of the BBC HD preview, though. Difficult to explain but there was a kind of &#039;frame flickering&#039; in some of the fast action bits in the football clips. I&#039;m sure there must be a technical term for this - or is it a deliberate effect?

 Anyone know what I&#039;m getting at?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPlayer would be great. Most of what I record is for viewing within a few days and I&#8217;ve got EOPL access close by (Squeezebox etc). I wonder what the picture quality of iPlayer streaming would be?</p>
<p>PS. Got the Humax HD box yesterday evening  from my local Comet &#8211; they said it was the last one of 15 they&#8217;d had in that day!</p>
<p>Not had time to play with it too much, but picture quality seems impressive, including the upscaled SD. There were some odd effects in parts of the BBC HD preview, though. Difficult to explain but there was a kind of &#8216;frame flickering&#8217; in some of the fast action bits in the football clips. I&#8217;m sure there must be a technical term for this &#8211; or is it a deliberate effect?</p>
<p> Anyone know what I&#8217;m getting at?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your box has 256mb of memory on board, the stream will be sent to the box directly to the screen so only a very small amount of buffering in memory will be needed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your box has 256mb of memory on board, the stream will be sent to the box directly to the screen so only a very small amount of buffering in memory will be needed</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/iplayer-and-kangaroo-through-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this really mean my Humax HD box is capable of watching BBC iplayer. I wonder this will have to be streamed as it&#039;s not got a Hard-Disk. I will have to move my rooter just to connect it up, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s capable or is it. I use BBC iplayer on my pc.

I reckon it will look great on my 37&quot; HDTV lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this really mean my Humax HD box is capable of watching BBC iplayer. I wonder this will have to be streamed as it&#8217;s not got a Hard-Disk. I will have to move my rooter just to connect it up, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s capable or is it. I use BBC iplayer on my pc.</p>
<p>I reckon it will look great on my 37&#8243; HDTV lol</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/iplayer-and-kangaroo-through-freesat/comment-page-1#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 12:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree that Freesat boxes will have to be Wifi like the Wii.

I have a Freeview TV with a Wii which I use for iPlayer over Wifi

I also have an iPod Touch with iPlayer over Wifi.

so why do I need Freesat ?

Freesat too expensive - too late</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that Freesat boxes will have to be Wifi like the Wii.</p>
<p>I have a Freeview TV with a Wii which I use for iPlayer over Wifi</p>
<p>I also have an iPod Touch with iPlayer over Wifi.</p>
<p>so why do I need Freesat ?</p>
<p>Freesat too expensive &#8211; too late</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 11:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why the hell did manufacturers build Freesat boxes with a wireless internet connection in it ?

Who has a Ethernet connection available by their TV - I for one don&#039;t, I&#039;d have to buy an internet wireless bridge for the Freesat box, equalling a further cost of about £30 to £50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why the hell did manufacturers build Freesat boxes with a wireless internet connection in it ?</p>
<p>Who has a Ethernet connection available by their TV &#8211; I for one don&#8217;t, I&#8217;d have to buy an internet wireless bridge for the Freesat box, equalling a further cost of about £30 to £50.</p>
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		<title>By: stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 10:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kangaroo (free, rent or buy). is this turning into paysat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kangaroo (free, rent or buy). is this turning into paysat</p>
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