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Jun 23 2014

Line of Duty, Doctor Who and Ant and Dec triumph at the Freesat Free TV Awards 2014The stars of British Television, both sides of the camera, celebrated the very best in Free TV at the sixth annual Freesat Free TV Awards.

Doctor Who, The Day of the Doctor scooped the biggest award of the night, as it was named Best of British TV programme or series. The judges praised it as ‘momentous’, ‘extraordinary’ and ‘a massive undertaking to do something as fitting as this for the show’s 50th anniversary’.

BBC Two’s cult hit police thriller Line of Duty was named Freesat Best TV Drama, with lead actor Keeley Hawes taking to the stage to collect the award. The judges said that the show had featured ‘breathtaking performances’ and that ‘in a world of box sets, we enjoyed watching TV in the usual way, staying in every Wednesday night to find out what would happen next.

ITV took home three awards, with Best Live TV Programme or Series going to Ant and Dec’s Saturday Night Takeaway, which the judges said had delivered ‘Extraordinary ambition, week after week’. Ant and Dec also won Personality of the Year, for the second year in a row, and Coronation Street was named Best British TV Soap.

BBC Two won the Freesat Channel of the Year award, as judges praised the channel for ‘firing on all cylinders; with strong dramas, great comedy and expertise in every territory from science to history’. As well as Line of Duty, BBC Two also won for Best TV Sitcom, with James Corden and Mathew Baynton’s The Wrong Mans.

Best News channel was awarded to BBC Radio 5 Live and Scripps Networks’ The Travel Channel took home the prize for best Specialist Channel. Channel 4’s documentary series Educating Yorkshire won Best Factual TV Programme or Series.

Emma Scott, Freesat’s Managing Director, commented:

I never fail to be impressed with the outstanding quality of great free Television and Radio on Freesat. This year in particular has been a truly amazing one for TV drama, so we’re particularly proud to see Doctor Who, The Day of the Doctor and Line of Duty recognized as our winners from a fantastically strong field.

The Freesat awards celebrate the very best of Britain’s free TV, from Ant & Dec’s Saturday Night Takeaway to Educating Yorkshire to The Wrong Mans. Huge congratulations to all our winners – they represent a roll-call of excellence, and that reflects the strong line-up of channels on Freesat which keep going from strength to strength.

Hosted by comedian Marcus Brigstocke, the awards ceremony was attended by a 250 strong VIP audience of celebrities, media and broadcasters.

Over 200 entries completed across twelve categories, and winners were chosen by an expert panel of broadcasting industry executives and television commentators, chaired by journalist and commentator, Neil Midgley.

The awards were supported by TV Times and Manhattan.

Freesat Free TV Awards 2014 Winners:

Freesat Channel of the Year: BBC Two
The judges said: On this channel, everything is just working’. It’s truly firing on all cylinders, with great comedy and expertise in every factual territory, from science to history. Even its lighter programmes – including those that might literally be described as ‘self-raising’ – show real depth and intelligence. And, over the last year, the channel’s new drama series have all been truly exceptional – with one of them recognised earlier this evening.

Best of British: TV Programme or Series: Doctor Who: Day of the Doctor
The judges said: Momentous, extraordinary and had real power. Creating a new, powerful, emotional and moral dilemma within such a long-running show was a massive undertaking. There is nothing more British than this programme.

Best Factual TV Programme or Series: Educating Yorkshire
The judges were impressed by the ‘courageous and inspiring’ content of this show. Although it is a returning format, the standard of casting, storylining and editing – not to mention a brave new choice of location – delivered a step change from the first series.

Best TV Sitcom: The Wrong Mans
The judges said: The programme itself was a genuinely risky undertaking, mixing dry sitcom with the crash-bang action of a thrilling Hollywood caper. Not only did it create a ‘gripping story’, but it still managed to be full of jokes, with its lead actors clearly relishing their unlikely roles.

Best TV Drama: Line of Duty
The judges said: This series took its genre forward with long – but gripping – interview scenes, and with a central performance that was nothing short of a masterclass in character acting.

Best Live TV Programme or Series: Ant & Dec’s Saturday Night Takeaway
The judges said: A standout in its category, it delivered a true variety of elements including performance and competition showing ‘extraordinary ambition, week after week, and made the most of its immediacy and connection with viewers at home’. It had so many aspects that are hard to pull off live, but delivered them with fantastic confidence and innovation.’ It was a ‘must see’ for every family, with a real surprise every Saturday’.

Best Children’s TV Programme or Series: Katie Morag
The judges said: Beautifully and authentically shot, it was a key move by its host channel into scripted drama, delivering self contained stories that could have been twee – but which instead feel sweet and, more importantly, real to their young audience.

Best Digital Radio Channel: Absolute 80s
The judges said: It’s done a fantastic job of engaging more deeply with its audience, through social media and with a powerful multiplatform strategy. Full of innovation, this station has found ways of creating premium new content – and has worked hard to recruit exactly the right presenters.

Best Specialist Channel: The Travel Channel
The judges said: A ‘standout channel’, run by a talented team who have done a brilliant job – not only of rebranding, but also of reinvigorating its content using canny original commissions and famous faces. The result has been ‘amazing growth’ in its audience share.

Best News Channel: Radio 5 Live
The judges said: Radio 5 Live has strong presenters who know their audience and present with flair, authority and confidence. The editorial line is consistently strong and tackles uncomfortable issues well, creating a bond with the target audience. Breaking news is reported boldly and seamlessly – in short, this channel does a peerless job in news broadcasting.

Audience Award – Broadcast Personality of the Year: Ant & Dec

Audience Award – Best British TV Soap: Coronation Street (ITV)

73 Responses to “Line of Duty, Doctor Who and Ant and Dec triumph at the Freesat Free TV Awards 2014”

  1. Ian Vallender Says:

    too bad Doctor Who The Day of the Doctor was the last BBC Programme in 3D :( i loved Day of the Doctor watching it in 3D and yes it was my pick for best show too bad BBC3 is closing down to be replaced by BBC 1+1 i’d say why bother? what BBC needs is a channel showing some of their classic TV Shows it’ll be a great replacement for BBC3! Peter Capaldi has some big boots to fill coming off the back of Matt Smith I hope the writers and the BBC pull off another award winning series!

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  2. RichardC Says:

    Keep BBC3. Close BBC News24 and BBC Parliament or merge into one channel.

    ” what BBC needs is a channel showing some of their classic TV Shows ”

    Yes but we know that won’t happen as UKTV hold the rights to those so the statement should be what Freesat needs not what BBC needs.

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  3. Neil Says:

    RichardC said:
    Keep BBC3. Close BBC News24 and BBC Parliament or merge into one channel.
    ” what BBC needs is a channel showing some of their classic TV Shows ”
    Yes but we know that won’t happen as UKTV hold the rights to those so the statement should be what Freesat needs not what BBC needs.

    Don’t close BBC News; that would water down my news sources and god forbid if I’d be left with the Murdoch mouthpiece as my source of news!

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  4. RichardC Says:

    Neil said: Don’t close BBC News; that would water down my news sources and god forbid if I’d be left with the Murdoch mouthpiece as my source of news!

    Is it really that vital to have rolling new 24hrs a day on the tv. There just isn’t that much news about. Ever heard of radio or the internet? :-)

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  5. lawrence earce Says:

    Most, if not all of these winners broadcast across all platforms, so I can’t see the justification of Freesat hi-jacking them for its annual Awards. I’d rather see the winners selected from those channels which are uniquely Freesat, or at least not present on Freeview.

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  6. speedy Says:

    Rather than a free booze-up and tuck-jn for the luvies I would rather see the money spent on delivering a world-beating hardware & software platform for the actual users.

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  7. Keith Cobby Says:

    What is ‘Ant & Dec’ and am I in any danger of catching it?

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  8. Al (Original) Says:

    Keith Cobby said:
    What is ‘Ant & Dec’ and am I in any danger of catching it?

    Ha ha. Spot on.

    How it can win an award is beyond me. One of the examples in my book of what is wrong with TV and why I don’t watch ITV.

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  9. Al (Original) Says:

    BBC Two best channels as well.

    What a con. Who’s judging these awards as it’s amazing how its the 3 mainstream channels that seem to win every year, when many of the more minor channels have better shows and better content (at least in my opinion).

    Line of Duty – best TV drama.

    What about “Southland”? – Quite simply the best Police Drama I’ve ever seen, period!

    What about “Homeland”? The last series was simply superb edge of your seat stuff!

    Best sitcom – What about “The Big Bang Theory”?

    Sorry but there’s life outside of the BBC and ITV, in fact I’d suggest more of it!

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  10. Tim Says:

    l know it’s kinda frivolous but still l think this contest is useful because it helps to generate interest in, and promote, the Freesat brand.

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  11. pollensa1946 Says:

    Tim said:
    l know it’s kinda frivolous but still l think this contest is useful because it helps to generate interest in, and promote, the Freesat brand.

    If so why is this the **only** publication in which I have seen any mention of this event?

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  12. RichardC Says:

    Off topic but Channel 4 is launching two new HD channels on Freeview on 1st July 2014. Will we be getting these on Freesat and if not why not.

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  13. miffo Says:

    Off topic too… Anyone else think Graham North’s ‘newsletter’ is a bit weak. This month, the only news is to invite Humax customers to essentially become ……..Humax customers! Give us some news, not a sales pitch for something that as a subscriber to your newsletter, I already have!

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  14. Al (Original) Says:

    RichardC said:
    Off topic but Channel 4 is launching two new HD channels on Freeview on 1st July 2014. Will we be getting these on Freesat and if not why not.

    Not exactly “new” channels – 4HD+1 and 4Seven HD, so essentially catchup. That said, HD catchup services have to be welcome.

    No mention of Freesat from what I’ve seen:

    http://www.arqiva.com/news/press-releases/arqiva-and-channel-4-launch-new-hd-channels

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  15. RichardC Says:

    Al (Original) said: Not exactly “new” channels – 4HD+1 and 4Seven HD, so essentially catchup. That said, HD catchup services have to be welcome.

    4seven HD and Channel 4+1 HD are brand new HD channels.
    http://www.a516digital.com/2014/06/faq-why-channel-41-and-4seven-hd-and.html#more

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  16. Rob Says:

    I’m really getting frustrated now, when was the last time freesat got some decent new channels? what happened to constantly growing the brand???? itv’s new channel has gone to sky and it still has ITV2,3,4 HD, talk about backstabbing. You could at least TRY to get some new channels, what ever happened to Dave?

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  17. Anthony Says:

    Dr.Who should disappear from our screens, it has totally bombed with poor doctors, a dumbed down themetune thats totally unrecognisable from Delias wonderful original with the famous plucked string/valve swoop bassline, noticeable melodyline and whitenoise rhythm track, and no 5.1 dolby surround sound.

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  18. Anthony Says:

    If I were in charge of itvplc I would pull the hd versions of itv2 itv3 and itv4 and itvencore from skys paywall and make them free to air on all platforms, itv are greedy and should be brought down to size.

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  19. Anthony Says:

    Freesat needs more hd thats what it needs.

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  20. miffo Says:

    Couple of off topic questions… Every now and then I dip into non-freesat, but find channel navigation difficult as the Freetime box doesn’t do a channel list. I can’t find a reference on the net for what I assume are Humax administered channel numbers – 5000 (CH4) – 8075 (Punjab Radio). So is this info available anywhere if not this box? (the G1 box listed non-freesat channels). My second question is do non-freesat channels update and delete themselves as Freesat channels do when they join or leave, or is it necessary to do a re-scan?
    Thanks

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  21. Keith Says:

    I have the 1000s freetime box and you can set the non freesat channel menu with a list. You can also delete the channels that you dont want. The only differences that I have found from the G1 boxes is that once you have the index set up, you have to remember the channel number that it is on, go out of the index and feed it in manually to view. It also does not have now/next epg as the G1 boxes have.

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  22. Keith Says:

    Should also have said that when channels come and go or change transponders you will have to do a manual tune-in on the non-freesat menu either by a complete scan or by feeding the transponder details in.

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  23. miffo Says:

    Ok Keith, how do you set a list? I have just gone non-freesat mode. Neither ‘guide’, nor ‘list’ do anything (nor does ‘media’).

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  24. miffo Says:

    Having re-read your post Keith, I think you mean you can see a list after initial scan? It is this’ list’ of what I assume to be Humax channel numbers that I wanted for reference…not a lot of use if you have to either remember four digit channel numbers, or flip through all of ‘em! I get that Freesat is distant from the non bit, but it should still be functional?

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  25. Don Neville Says:

    RichardC said:

    And very good quality 4+1HD and 4 seven HD are to !! Freeview HD now has 13 HD channels compared to freesats 11.Seems were falling behind to a a service which is supposed to be on its last legs(4g 5g death of dtt etc etc)

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  26. RichardC Says:

    Don Neville said: And very good quality 4+1HD and 4 seven HD are to !! Freeview HD now has 13 HD channels compared to freesats 11.Seems were falling behind to a a service which is supposed to be on its last legs(4g 5g death of dtt etc etc)

    That’s fine if you can get Com 7. COM7 has just over 70% population coverage so 30% get zilch. That’s where Freesat should be filling the gaps.???

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  27. Al (Original) Says:

    RichardC said: That’s fine if you can get Com 7. COM7 has just over 70% population coverage so 30% get zilch. That’s where Freesat should be filling the gaps.???

    Yeah but that’s the first problem – Freesat shouldn’t be filling in the gaps.

    It has greater capacity and better coverage. It should be being used as a showcase platform and being heavily promoted whereas Freeview should be being used as the cheap alternative for those who don’t want to spend that little bit extra on getting a dish.

    With the capacity issues going forward, the BBC should be actively promoting Freesat with a view to increasing customer switching from Freeview to Freesat.

    Instead, it appears they are going to move more towards internet transmission which is great if you can afford internet as well as tv, and fast internet at that.

    For those that can’t afford an internet service, or don’t understand such things eg the elderly, the future doesn’t look as rosey in my opinion and that’s before I even get started on my experience of internet vs broadcast reliability.

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  28. Don Neville Says:

    Al (Original) said: Yeah but that’s the first problem – Freesat shouldn’t be filling in the gaps.
    It has greater capacity and better coverage. It should be being used as a showcase platform and being heavily promoted whereas Freeview should be being used as the cheap alternative for those who don’t want to spend that little bit extra on getting a dish.
    With the capacity issues going forward, the BBC should be actively promoting Freesat with a view to increasing customer switching from Freeview to Freesat.
    Instead, it appears they are going to move more towards internet transmission which is great if you can afford internet as well as tv, and fast internet at that.
    For those that can’t afford an internet service, or don’t understand such things eg the elderly, the future doesn’t look as rosey in my opinion and that’s before I even get started on my experience of internet vs broadcast reliability.

    Ofcoms recent review into the future of free TV makes it plain that it expects freesat to play only a small part with dtt remaining the main provider in some form or another!

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  29. pollensa1946 Says:

    What Freesat need to do is deliver a leading edge hardware & software platform which is the envy of the competition (Freeview, SKY etc) and which is attractive enough to cause users to switch to it in large numbers. They are not currently offering that and no sign that they will any time soon.

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  30. Don Neville Says:

    RichardC said: That’s fine if you can get Com 7. COM7 has just over 70% population coverage so 30% get zilch. That’s where Freesat should be filling the gaps.???

    Suppose 70% is better than what we get,which is no ch4+1HD and 4Seven HD at all!!!!

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  31. Rob Says:

    ADD MORE CHANNELS! Seriously considering getting sky back

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  32. admin Says:

    Rob said:
    ADD MORE CHANNELS! Seriously considering getting sky back

    There are already 200 channels, how many do you need. There is a whole world outside!!! ;)

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  33. pollensa1946 Says:

    admin said: There are already 200 channels…

    …and a large percentage of them are complete rubbish. Freesat seem to believe that simply adding channels is the secret to success.

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  34. admin Says:

    pollensa1946 said: …and a large percentage of them are complete rubbish.Freesat seem to believe that simply adding channels is the secret to success.

    No they don’t, they believe that channels pay for inclusion that keeps a platform running. If you want a wider variety of high-end channels, pay Sky!

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  35. RichardC Says:

    admin said: No they don’t, they believe that channels pay for inclusion that keeps a platform running. If you want a wider variety of high-end channels, pay Sky!

    I did for years (pay Sky) but found myself watching the FTA channels mostly so never again. Complete rip off charging extra for HD , multiroom etc.
    Netflix is much more to my liking than Sky. All you can eat for £5.99 a month guaranteed for 2yrs bargain.

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  36. Don Neville Says:

    pollensa1946 said: …and a large percentage of them are complete rubbish.Freesat seem to believe that simply adding channels is the secret to success.

    Which is why few freeview viewers will switch to freeway,just not enough quality channels available.They get two new HD channels from a major PSB,we get forces TV.That sums it up for me.

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  37. Don Neville Says:

    pollensa1946 said: …and a large percentage of them are complete rubbish.Freesat seem to believe that simply adding channels is the secret to success.

    Which is why freeview viewers won’t switch to freesat.They get two new HD channels from a major PSB and we get forces TV.That sums up freesats failure in the eyes of the viewing public!

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  38. RichardC Says:

    If you already get all the Freeview HD channels and are happy with those why would you change to Freesat but no use getting Freeview for lots of channels that are on Freesat including several HD ones.Minority interests are catered for better on Freesat and it has several useful apps like Youtube and Curzon which I don’t see on Freeview also several CBS channels not on Freeview. The two 4HD repeats channels are not on any satellite platform and that includes Sky . I don’t think a platform with over 3 million viewers is in any way a failure in the eyes of the public. Having said that not everyone wants a dish on their house but every new tv has Freesat even though 30% only get Freeview Lite and no com 7 so it is bound to be the default platform for most people. Also lots of people don’t give a fig about HD, they simply don’t see what the fuss is about like my cousin who cant be bothered switching to the Freeview HD section and just watches the SD versions.

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  39. RichardC Says:

    Correct please admin should read every new tv has Freeview not every new tv has Freesat . Thanks

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  40. pollensa1946 Says:

    admin said: No they don’t, they believe that channels pay for inclusion that keeps a platform running. If you want a wider variety of high-end channels, pay Sky!

    Not sure what they believe is the secret to success then. They keep adding channels of no real interest to the mainstream viewers while not yet delivering a robust, bug-free h/w & s/w platform. Personally I am not interested in more channels so have no intention of paying SKY, I want a quality platform for the existing channels (note this posting is completely free of exclamation marks)..

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  41. Don Neville Says:

    RichardC said:
    If you already get all the Freeview HD channels and are happy with those why would you change to Freesat but no use getting Freeview for lots of channels that are on Freesat including several HD ones.Minority interests are catered for better on Freesat and it has several useful apps like Youtube and Curzon which I don’t see on Freeview also several CBS channels not on Freeview. The two 4HD repeats channels are not on any satellite platform and that includes Sky . I don’t think a platform with over 3 million viewers is in any way a failure in the eyes of the public. Having said that not everyone wants a dish on their house but every new tv has Freesat even though 30% only get Freeview Lite and no com 7 so it is bound to be the default platform for most people. Also lots of people don’t give a fig about HD, they simply don’t see what the fuss is about like my cousin who cant be bothered switching to the Freeview HD section and just watches the SD versions.

    Hmm,yes the two catch up HD channels arnt on sky,but ch4 could have put them on freesat as well as freeview.YouTube is available on every smart TV and BD player and Curzon is of limited appeal. Yes the CBS channels are probably the only CH of note not on freeview,but with there reality CH on free view whose to say the others won’t follow soon.The only advantage freesat now has is its universal availability.As of com has made clear in its recent report into the future of free TV that dtt will remain at its core I am considering swapping to youview or waiting for freeview connect to launch.

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  42. Digiwatcher Says:

    TruTV is coming to Freesat next month

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  43. pollensa1946 Says:

    Digiwatcher said:
    TruTV is coming to Freesat next month

    Wow, another completely useless channel that I need to delete. What we need is a proper Favourites facility (hmmm…that was requested almost 2 years ago and still waiting).

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  44. RichardC Says:

    Don Neville said: Hmm,yes the two catch up HD channels arnton sky,but ch4 could have put them on freesat as well as freeview.YouTube is available on every smart TV and BD player and Curzon is of limited appeal. Yes the CBS channels are probably the only CH of note not on freeview,but with there reality CH on free view whose to say the others won’t follow soon.The only advantage freesat now has is its universal availability.As of com has made clear in its recent report into the future of free TV that dtt will remain at its core I am considering swapping to youview or waiting for freeview connect to launch.

    Got tt youview a year ago for the free box but rarely use it as there is no red button service which I find annoying. Also the epg is slow as it seems to depend on the internet to update. Red button HD is not available on Freeview so that’s another reason to keep Freesat.

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  45. RichardC Says:

    pollensa1946 said: Wow, another completely useless channel that I need to delete.What we need is a proper Favourites facility (hmmm…that was requested almost 2 years ago and still waiting).

    My Manhattan boxes have a favourites facility and you can even include non Freesat channels or have categorys.

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  46. pollensa1946 Says:

    RichardC said: My Manhattan boxes have a favourites facility and you can even include non Freesat channels or have categorys.

    Problem is the next generation of Manhattan boxes (year-end they say) will use the Freesat s/w that is on the Humax box. So no one-button-press Favourites or categories.

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  47. Dave W Says:

    Don Neville said: As of com has made clear in its recent report into the future of free TV that dtt will remain at its core I am considering swapping to youview or waiting for freeview connect to launch.

    Good luck if you go with Youview. A friend of mine went for that about 8 months ago and has now ditched it because the box was too buggy and slow. He’s now with Virgin.

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  48. Don Neville Says:

    Dave W said: Good luck if you go with Youview. A friend of mine went for that about 8 months ago and has now ditched it because the box was too buggy and slow. He’s now with Virgin.

    Actually,to be honest,I have been using the new BT branded Humax youview box for a few weeks now(retail not bundled).Its faster and more responsive than my free time stb,and Demand 5 works which it doesn’t on my free time box.Very happy with the features it offers and the pq is excellent.Watching TV has become fun again.Since I bought it I hardly watch the freesat tuner on my Samsung TV anymore.

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  49. miffo Says:

    What a snipe this thread is becoming on Freesat. For the record, I am very happy with my couple of hundred quids worth of Hummy. Long may Freesat evolve.

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  50. Rob Says:

    miffo said:
    What a snipe this thread is becoming on Freesat.For the record, I am very happy with my couple of hundred quids worth of Hummy. Long may Freesat evolve.

    Evolve? the last decent channels were about 1 year ago.Evolving very very slowly

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  51. Rob Says:

    Also i really cannot understand why they continue to provide regional channels like itv and bbc… It is such a waste of space on the sat. You could have at least 50 brand new channels on 28.2e if they could just get rid of this… it’s so pointless

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  52. admin Says:

    Rob said:
    Also i really cannot understand why they continue to provide regional channels like itv and bbc… It is such a waste of space on the sat. You could have at least 50 brand new channels on 28.2e if they could just get rid of this… it’s so pointless

    There is such an unbelievable lack of knowledge banding around on here at times. The regional variants are nothing to do with Freesat, these are decided upon by the relevant broadcaster. In addition, there is plenty of space on 28.2, these regional channels have absolutely no baring on the ability for more channels to be launched.

    The situation at present may look a little stagnant, but that is purely because Freesat has reached a point where the majority (if not all) of freely available satellite channels are now on the platform, which should be regarded as a huge success and ultimately what keeps the platform afloat (just!). If anyone can suggest a way in which Freesat can magic subscription channels out of thin air, or fund the creation of multi-million pound channels with sports and film licenses, I’m happy to pass them on!

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  53. Dave W Says:

    Rob said: Evolve? the last decent channels were about 1 year ago.Evolving very very slowly

    Evolve basically means “develop gradually” so yes it’s a fair description. Apart from a couple of minor niggles I’m really happy with my HDR-1000S :)

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  54. Don Neville Says:

    admin said: There is such an unbelievable lack of knowledge banding around on here at times. The regional variants are nothing to do with Freesat, these are decided upon by the relevant broadcaster. In addition, there is plenty of space on 28.2, these regional channels have absolutely no baring on the ability for more channels to be launched.
    The situation at present may look a little stagnant, but that is purely because Freesat has reached a point where the majority (if not all) of freely available satellite channels are now on the platform, which should be regarded as a huge success and ultimately what keeps the platform afloat (just!). If anyone can suggest a way in which Freesat can magic subscription channels out of thin air, or fund the creation of multi-million pound channels with sports and film licenses, I’m happy to pass them on!

    Let’s face it,freesat has come has far as possible with adding channels. UKTV is unlikely to join now and more HD from major providers is not going to happen.With freeview connect coming soon and youview well past being in over a million homes then freesat needs to rethink its objectives if it is to evolve,or indeed survive the IPTV revolution that’s coming.

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  55. Lawrence Pearce Says:

    Off topic I know, but I recently became interested in a new Panasonic TV with offered at a very good price, only to discover it was Freeview receiver, not a Freesat one. Indeed, it now seems that Panasonic offer very few if any Freesat TVs in its current line up.
    I’m therefore posting this to warn others that not every machine has a satellite tuner. And if a major brand like Panasonic has indeed pulled the plug on Freesat, then this must be a concern for the future of the platform. I hope that I am wrong because I have been a supporter of Freesat since it was launched, and so far as I can see, it still offers significant benefits over its competitors.

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  56. Lawrence Pearce Says:

    Sorry the above comment will not make much sense because the Freetime references seem to have been chopped out as a result of using the correct freetime bracket symbols! It should have read…

    Off topic I know, but I recently became interested in a new Panasonic TV with Freetime offered at a very good price, only to discover it was Freeview Freetime receiver, not a Freesat one. Indeed, it now seems that Panasonic offer very few if any Freesat TVs in its current line up.
    I’m therefore posting this to warn others that not every machine has a satellite tuner. And if a major brand like Panasonic has indeed pulled the plug on Freesat, then this must be a concern for the future of the platform. I hope that I am wrong because I have been a supporter of Freesat since it was launched, and so far as I can see, it still offers significant benefits over its competitors

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  57. pollensa1946 Says:

    Lawrence Pearce said:
    Sorrythe above comment will not make much sense because the Freetime references seem to have been chopped out as a result of using the correct freetime bracket symbols!It should have read…
    Off topic I know, but I recently became interested in a new Panasonic TV with Freetime offered at a very good price, only to discover it was Freeview Freetimereceiver, not a Freesat one. Indeed, it now seems that Panasonic offer very few if any Freesat TVs in its current line up.I’m therefore posting this to warn others that not every machine has a satellite tuner. And if a major brand like Panasonic has indeed pulled the plug on Freesat, then this must be a concern for the future of the platform. I hope that I am wrong because I have been a supporter of Freesat since it was launched, and so far as I can see, it still offers significant benefits over its competitors

    I think you are being misled by the retailers description. Freetime is a Freesat term, nothing to do with Freeview. In fact if you look at the detailed spec on the John Lewis pages it does indeed refer to Freeview Freetime, but then goes on in the detail to specify…Freeview HD, Freesat HD and freetime. Poor marketing by the retailer.

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  58. pollensa1946 Says:

    admin said: …Freesat has reached a point where the majority (if not all) of freely available satellite channels are now on the platform, which should be regarded as a huge success and ultimately what keeps the platform afloat (just!)…

    On another post you dismissed my post by saying that Freesat do not regard adding channels as the secret to success. Also Freesat, and this site, are regularly trumpeting the growth figures for Freesat takeup, but now you say the platform is afloat (just!).
    Seems to me, and I’m not unique in voicing this, is that Freesat need to get lots of users which in turn will attract channels looking for revenue from ads. In Germany for example the Disney channel has gone Free To Air because they looked at the huge potential audience viewing figures for it. The problem, as I see it, is that Freesat are in the main getting users, like myself, who can only get Freeview Lite and are unhappy with that, or those who are coming off of a SKY sub. Any potential customers who might be attracted to the platform based simply on its excellent performance and ease of use may be put off by reading, as I did today, of a new user complaining that the brochure spec says FF at 64x and slo-mo. Neither is true, yet it appears that the brochure has not been reprinted since launch almost two years ago. This is typical of Freesats customer care including those many bugs and stupid design points raised in this and other sites that go unfixed, and no comment by Freesat.
    Get the audience and you will get the top quality channels.

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  59. admin Says:

    pollensa1946 said: On another post you dismissed my post by saying that Freesat do not regard adding channels as the secret to success.Also Freesat, and this site, are regularly trumpeting the growth figures for Freesat takeup, but now you say the platform is afloat (just!).

    No, that isn’t what I meant. I suspect that Freesat don’t generally mind what quality the channels are, just as long as they pay their fees (and neither should customers on that basis). This isn’t to knock what Freesat are ultimately aiming for, but to suggest that in the early days of a platform, which this still is, the more channels, regardless of taste, is most welcome. Freesat’s sales figures are very good and should be celebrated, but it cannot be ignored that Freesat isn’t making a profit at the moment and do generally have to evolve to stand a chance against the competitors.

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  60. pollensa1946 Says:

    admin said: …I suspect that Freesat don’t generally mind what quality the channels are, just as long as they pay their fees (and neither should customers on that basis)…

    I’m not over much concerned what channels Freesat add of whatever quality. I object to having to wade through page after page of rubbish in the full guide to find the one I’m interested in, so I delete channels. That’s in the absence of an immediately accessible, and thus user friendly, Favourites facility. Result is I have one Freesat HDR and three Freesat-from-SKY boxes which I would like to swap for new Freesat boxes. Probably another HDR and two HBs. However, no sale until Freesat deliver the UI that I and lots of others have repeatedly asked for. If they do deliver an excellent leading edge end-user experience then the box sales might just leap up, the audience figures go higher and channels decide that Freesat is an attractive platform to be on.

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  61. admin Says:

    pollensa1946 said: I’m not over much concerned what channels Freesat add of whatever quality.I object to having to wade through page after page of rubbish in the full guide to find the one I’m interested in, so I delete channels.That’s in the absence of an immediately accessible, and thus user friendly, Favourites facility.Result is I have one Freesat HDR and three Freesat-from-SKY boxes which I would like to swap for new Freesat boxes. Probably another HDR and two HBs.However, no sale until Freesat deliver the UI that I and lots of others have repeatedly asked for.If they do deliver an excellent leading edge end-user experience then the box sales might just leap up, the audience figures go higher and channels decide that Freesat is an attractive platform to be on.

    I agree with you there, a tailored guide would be fantastic to avoid all the channels you are not interested in. The issue (pure guess) is likely to be that the contractual agreement with the channels is for an allocated slot within the TV guide and by allowing users an easy access favourites guide, it further limits their presence to gain an audience. Manhattan have a favourites option, but suspect that was slipped through and is unlikely to be available on their Freetime offering later in the year.

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  62. Lawrence Pearce Says:

    pollensa1946 said: I think you are being misled by the retailers description. Freetime is a Freesat term, nothing to do with Freeview.

    That’s what I thought, but I do believe that Panasonic’s current range of Freetime TVs are now Freeview only. Check out the TX-42AS650B for example – on Panasonic’s own website, there is no reference to Freesat with this model, and the Freetime home page illustration shows a Freeview logo where the Freesat logo used to be. If this machine and others does indeed have a Freesat tuner, then why would Panasonic remove all reference to it in their specifications?

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  63. pollensa1946 Says:

    Lawrence Pearce said: … I do believe that Panasonic’s current range of Freetime TVs are now Freeview only. Check out the TX-42AS650B for example – on Panasonic’s own website, there is no reference to Freesat with this model, and the Freetime home page illustration shows a Freeview logo where the Freesat logo used to be…

    You are absolutely correct, even the John Lewis website concurs with that. Panny appear to have withdrawn from Freesat after a very short flirtation. Question is why are they using the term “freetime” when Freesat claim that as their own.

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  65. pollensa1946 Says:

    After visiting a number of sites my reading of the situation is that the Panny TV does NOT have a satellite input, but is using only the freetime software component of Freesat to get OD programs from the internet. A close look shows that they have even modified it to use the coloured buttons on the R/C.

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  66. admin Says:

    This is very confusing isn’t it, as the Panasonic website lists the Freetime televisions under ‘Freesat HD’ alone on the search. Also the picture of Freetime shows the ‘now and next’ guide which surely it shouldn’t!

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  67. Lawrence Pearce Says:

    There’s definitely some weird stuff going on with Panasonic TVs. It’s now very hard to tell which models have satellite tuners without looking into the detailed specs, and I don’t know whether even these models are Freesat compliant, or whether they simply have free to air DVB S2 tuners. Why don’t they use the Freesat logo, so that buyers can easily identify the model they want?

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  68. stonedimmaculate1962 Says:

    Quite on Freesat at the moment, are they closing down.

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  69. pollensa1946 Says:

    stonedimmaculate1962 said:
    Quite on Freesat at the moment, are they closing down.

    1) Do you mean *quiet*?
    2) Where, what, when is it quiet?

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  70. stonedimmaculate1962 Says:

    Oh my! I spelt quiet wrong. I do apologise to all concerned. And yes I do believe it’s a lot more quiet and less info coming out of Freesat these days, or am I just coming down with that Ant & Dec virus that was going around a few weeks back.

    Oh well, a hot Lemon Beecham and back to bed.

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  71. Neil Says:

    stonedimmaculate1962 said:
    Oh my! I spelt quiet wrong. I do apologise to all concerned. And yes I do believe it’s a lot more quiet and less info coming out of Freesat these days, or am I just coming down with that Ant & Dec virus that was going around a few weeks back.
    Oh well, a hot Lemon Beecham and back to bed.

    TruTV launches on the 4th August

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  72. RichardC Says:

    How’s this for news.
    Freesat sues Amazon for trademark infringement

    http://www.digitaltveurope.net/204102/freesat-sues-amazon-for-trademark-infringement/?

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  73. Kevin Ver1 Says:

    Ian Vallender said:
    too bad Doctor Who The Day of the Doctor was the last BBC Programme in 3D i loved Day of the Doctor watching it in3D and yes it was my pick for best show too bad BBC3 is closing down to be replaced by BBC 1+1 i’d say why bother? what BBC needs is a channel showing some of their classic TV Shows it’ll be a great replacement for BBC3! Peter Capaldi has some big boots to fill coming off the back of Matt Smith I hope the writers and the BBC pull off another award winning series!

    If you are looking for classic TV on Freesat there does seem to be quite a good selection. The Horror Channel is currently showing the classic Dr Who stories from the first 7 Doctors. In addition they are showing Hammer House of Horror and they were showing The Invaders. CBS have the original Star Trek and Star Trek Next Generation (remastered).

    Even the BBC have shown some classic TV often on BBC 4. They have just finished showing Edge of Darkness.

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