Comments on: The Bill In HD…When ITV Remember That Is http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is Join Freesat brings you the very latest news and information on the Freesat satellite TV service Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:59:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sarah http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-13450 Sarah Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:10:39 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-13450 Since the Bill has changed its 'new look' I have not been interested in the programme at all.... all the music, sounds and changing the theme tune.. its awful.... I am sure I am not the only one who thinks it has changed for the worst.. am sorry if this is the wrong page to comment on the new look.. but I feel very strongly about it...BRING BACK THE OLD LOOK BILL WITH THE PROPER THEME TUNE WE ALL KNOW... !!! ITV please comment on this.. and dont deny you haven't lost a lot of viewers because of this!!! Since the Bill has changed its ‘new look’ I have not been interested in the programme at all…. all the music, sounds and changing the theme tune.. its awful…. I am sure I am not the only one who thinks it has changed for the worst.. am sorry if this is the wrong page to comment on the new look.. but I feel very strongly about it…BRING BACK THE OLD LOOK BILL WITH THE PROPER THEME TUNE WE ALL KNOW… !!!

ITV please comment on this.. and dont deny you haven’t lost a lot of viewers because of this!!!

]]> By: Alex http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11430 Alex Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:01:40 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11430 Just watched the bill in HD and i had no problems at all, such a great picture :) Just watched the bill in HD
and i had no problems at all, such a great picture :)

]]> By: Tony Hales http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11407 Tony Hales Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:22:46 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11407 STV have dropped 'The Bill'. It looks like they are determined not to show any ITV- HD shows at all in future not that they do anyway. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a163708/stv-axes-the-bill-from-its-schedules.html STV have dropped ‘The Bill’.
It looks like they are determined not to show any ITV- HD shows at all in future not that they do anyway.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a163708/stv-axes-the-bill-from-its-schedules.html

]]> By: Oyodi http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11334 Oyodi Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:09:48 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11334 My problem with ITV HD on the red button is that when my Humax PVR auto scans for new channels, it removes all my scheduled recordings of ITV HD, this problem does not effect any other channels just ITV HD, I have missed so many ITV programs that I now wonder if its worth the risk to schedule an ITV HD recording. I have just noticed that I have no recording of Kingdom, even thou I scheduled it to record the entire series on ITV HD. These problem would not happen if ITV HD had its own channel. My problem with ITV HD on the red button is that when my Humax PVR auto scans for new channels, it removes all my scheduled recordings of ITV HD, this problem does not effect any other channels just ITV HD, I have missed so many ITV programs that I now wonder if its worth the risk to schedule an ITV HD recording. I have just noticed that I have no recording of Kingdom, even thou I scheduled it to record the entire series on ITV HD.
These problem would not happen if ITV HD had its own channel.

]]> By: Trevor Harris http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11294 Trevor Harris Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:19:31 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11294 @Steve I do not believe that ITV 's problems have originate with the credit crunch. ITV have a history of bad management and a contempt for it's viewers over many years. To start with ITV refused to go on satellite for 2 years in order to promote their On Digital Platform. As it happened the lack of ITV on satellite had little impact on Sky and ITV lost significant revenues. At the start of On Digital ITV would only provide a digital box with a subscription. It was not possible to purchase a box. This greatly limited the take up of DTT and infact almost destroyed it. Near the end of ITV Digital the BBC wanted to switch of its DTT because they could not justify the costs with less than 1 million viewers. When ITV did eventually go onto satellite they used very low bit rates and a low resolution of 544x576 which we still suffer today. Then we come to the 2006 world cup hd trials. The BBC transmitted HD on cable, satellite and terestrial. ITV refused to transmit its world cup matches on satellite denying its matches to the biggest HD audience. Now ITV is repeating its On Digital trick of trying deny ITV HD to Sky subscribers. We have also recenttly had the premium rate call scandle of ITV stealing from viewers. Ofcom has also recently fined ITV for not fulfilling the requirements of its PSB licence. Also it is not only HD that ITV has technical problems with. Recently we had the missed chelsea goal, and the missed grand prix finish both due to interuption by adverts. All in all ITV has a history of bad management. I was very hopefull that the intervention of Micheal Grade would change things but it now looks as though even he is unable to sort this company out. Now we come to the "Operational Problem" issue. ITV's response is just pathetic. It is either an "Operational Problem" or "Beyond our Control". You are right I am not a expert in television transmission networks but I do have a basic understanding of how digital television works. ITV's attitude is in sharp contrast to the BBC who have become very open about technical problems. Take for example the lip sync problems on 5.1 Dolby Digital. The guy that has been given the job of sorting this out has a blog which has given alot of detail of what the problems are and how the BBC is sorting them. There is also the problem 5.1 dropouts of satellite links using Dolby E. The BBC has published a very detailed paper on the problem and how it is fixing it. @Steve

I do not believe that ITV ‘s problems have originate with the credit crunch. ITV have a history of bad management and a contempt for it’s viewers over many years. To start with ITV refused to go on satellite for 2 years in order to promote their On Digital Platform. As it happened the lack of ITV on satellite had little impact on Sky and ITV lost significant revenues. At the start of On Digital ITV would only provide a digital box with a subscription. It was not possible to purchase a box. This greatly limited the take up of DTT and infact almost destroyed it. Near the end of ITV Digital the BBC wanted to switch of its DTT because they could not justify the costs with less than 1 million viewers. When ITV did eventually go onto satellite they used very low bit rates and a low resolution of 544×576 which we still suffer today. Then we come to the 2006 world cup hd trials. The BBC transmitted HD on cable, satellite and terestrial. ITV refused to transmit its world cup matches on satellite denying its matches to the biggest HD audience. Now ITV is repeating its On Digital trick of trying deny ITV HD to Sky subscribers. We have also recenttly had the premium rate call scandle of ITV stealing from viewers. Ofcom has also recently fined ITV for not fulfilling the requirements of its PSB licence. Also it is not only HD that ITV has technical problems with. Recently we had the missed chelsea goal, and the missed grand prix finish both due to interuption by adverts. All in all ITV has a history of bad management. I was very hopefull that the intervention of Micheal Grade would change things but it now looks as though even he is unable to sort this company out.

Now we come to the “Operational Problem” issue. ITV’s response is just pathetic. It is either an “Operational Problem” or “Beyond our Control”. You are right I am not a expert in television transmission networks but I do have a basic understanding of how digital television works. ITV’s attitude is in sharp contrast to the BBC who have become very open about technical problems. Take for example the lip sync problems on 5.1 Dolby Digital. The guy that has been given the job of sorting this out has a blog which has given alot of detail of what the problems are and how the BBC is sorting them. There is also the problem 5.1 dropouts of satellite links using Dolby E. The BBC has published a very detailed paper on the problem and how it is fixing it.

]]> By: darnall 42 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11287 darnall 42 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:05:48 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11287 If BET HD can have a channel for just one programe then why not one for ITV HD ? (it's going to happen in the near future anyway ;) ) If BET HD can have a channel for just one programe then why not one for ITV HD ? (it’s going to happen in the near future anyway ;) )

]]> By: admin http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11284 admin Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:03:29 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11284 @AndrewM It wasn't available via manual tune on Sky either. @AndrewM

It wasn’t available via manual tune on Sky either.

]]> By: m o malley http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11283 m o malley Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:20:02 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11283 the red button fiesco has happend on numerous occassions the hd film has not been shown really bad service itv not like the bbc who are winning the hd viewing hand down imo. the red button fiesco has happend on numerous occassions
the hd film has not been shown really bad service itv
not like the bbc who are winning the hd viewing hand down imo.

]]> By: Steve http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11281 Steve Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:47:24 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11281 @Trevor. Are you in a position to understand what went wrong if ITV explained "in detail" about what happened? If you are, to what depth are you expecting them to explain to? For example, do you know what elements would be in a typical chain? - indeed that chain may be very different for ITV or SKY or BBC etc. ITV's financial problems are, primarily, as a direct result of the "credit crunch" and the massive collapse of the commercial markets which has an immediate and direct relation to advertising revenues. ITV's viewing figures have been good of late especially with programmes like "Britain's got talent" doing well. "Contempt for customers" is a 'toys out of cot' remark. @AndrewM. The "ITV HD Red Button syndrome" may have underlying reasons - it does tie in ITV HD to freesat (I know you can manually add to, say, Sky; but for "Joe Public" and not us geeks :-) that is what it does) and, to some extent, it does 'engage' the viewer to the HD feature (And now on ITV, and in HD if you press your red button....) they feel like they are doing something. I am sure there are other (political/management/contractual) reasons too. Nominally, the source would be in HD and a downconverted feed would run into the SD chain, the HD chain picking up the HD source directly. These 2 feeds would eventually be Mpegged and multiplexed and piped to the uplink system. Your curiosity would rule out some elements and is well founded, but I think that, due to numerous other unknowns, would only lead to speculation. @Soul4real Poetic comment. Nice one, except I would be Budapest for HD but I aint starvin ;-) @Trevor.
Are you in a position to understand what went wrong if ITV explained “in detail” about what happened? If you are, to what depth are you expecting them to explain to? For example, do you know what elements would be in a typical chain? – indeed that chain may be very different for ITV or SKY or BBC etc. ITV’s financial problems are, primarily, as a direct result of the “credit crunch” and the massive collapse of the commercial markets which has an immediate and direct relation to advertising revenues. ITV’s viewing figures have been good of late especially with programmes like “Britain’s got talent” doing well. “Contempt for customers” is a ‘toys out of cot’ remark.
@AndrewM.
The “ITV HD Red Button syndrome” may have underlying reasons – it does tie in ITV HD to freesat (I know you can manually add to, say, Sky; but for “Joe Public” and not us geeks :-) that is what it does) and, to some extent, it does ‘engage’ the viewer to the HD feature (And now on ITV, and in HD if you press your red button….) they feel like they are doing something. I am sure there are other (political/management/contractual) reasons too.
Nominally, the source would be in HD and a downconverted feed would run into the SD chain, the HD chain picking up the HD source directly. These 2 feeds would eventually be Mpegged and multiplexed and piped to the uplink system. Your curiosity would rule out some elements and is well founded, but I think that, due to numerous other unknowns, would only lead to speculation.
@Soul4real
Poetic comment. Nice one, except I would be Budapest for HD but I aint starvin ;-)

]]> By: Soul4real http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/the-bill-in-hdwhen-itv-remember-that-is/comment-page-1#comment-11279 Soul4real Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:07:40 +0000 http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/?p=2761#comment-11279 If you where watching the tennis on BBC HD this week you would have noticed in the middle of a match on court number 1 they to made a blip also and started to run there BBC HD Preview this happened when the show moved from BBC 1 to BBC2, if that was ITV we would never hear the end of it, if you guys where paying for the service i could understand, but your not paying a red cent and want to go to the highest Court in Europe as if the commited the biggest sin, they will get it right. I may be hungary for HD but I aint starving. If you where watching the tennis on BBC HD this week you would have noticed in the middle of a match on court number 1 they to made a blip also and started to run there BBC HD Preview this happened when the show moved from BBC 1 to BBC2, if that was ITV we would never hear the end of it, if you guys where paying for the service i could understand, but your not paying a red cent and want to go to the highest Court in Europe as if the commited the biggest sin, they will get it right. I may be hungary for HD but I aint starving.

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