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July 4th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Great – will check it out this evening
BobQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Good, more choice, albeit repeats and with the 2 music stations going to tv in september things are hopefully gathering pace again on Freesat
roger mellieQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
YouView is launching around the 26th of July. The box is £299 to buy or as part of a broadband package from TalkTalk or BT. It is based around Freeview with no Freesat option at present. Two years too late imho.
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Agreed, though other than Tivo, I’m not sure any other platforms offer similar functionality (obviously some televisions do). It certainly seems they will beat Freesats version to launch which is a massive shame and doesn’t appear Freesat and YouView will collaborate in the future.
adminQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Looked at the YouView announcement this morning and it is a shame that from what you are saying it is going to beat the Freesat G2 spec boxes, plus do I understand that Sky are going to get a look in on YouView with access to their new pay as you go service (I know pay services are not what everyone wants but surely this gives great flexibility). It is a shame that with BBC and ITV’s support of YouView that from what you are saying aswell their will not be a Freesat version especially with concerns over what 4G may do to Freeview…
Mark WhiteQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
i cannot see the new 4seven on my epg on humax foxsat!
any advice? will try and fire up again to see if there…..
mikkyQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
I agree with Richard’s comments that it’s too late for youview to make good inroads. There’s already a large growing connected TV market and they are going to have to climb a much steeper hill to get level, should it have come to fruition a couple of years back during the main DSO programme then I think it would have stood a better chance. Freesat-wise we’ve already got iPlayer and ITV Player (for most). It would have been nice to see a Freesat youview product at launch but I presume that’s what Humax will bring to the table once their replacement for the HDR is announced.
NeilQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Yep, the whole plan for Freesat G2 is a similar interactive service but suspect it was conceived more about beating YouView and taking market share than anything else, and now appears to be lagging behind which is a shame. Apparantly those involved in the development say it is pretty special, but will it be too late!!!
adminQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
It all depends how youview takes off I guess. One thing not in youview’s favour is some of the slow internet speeds for a proportion of the population but I guess won’t affect the majority. It would be interesting to see how many people use Sky’s Anytime service versus linear TV viewing as youview is in effect the same thing.
NeilQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Agreed, “minimum 3mb”, blimey, I struggle to get half that!
adminQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Seems the You-view box is made by Humax, also if you have to reset the unit at any point all recordings will be deleted. Not very advanced in my opinion?
roger mellieQuote
July 4th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
That is pushing it for a fair few, don’t the BBC and Freesat recommend a min of 2MB for iPlayer on the platform?
That’s not very good. Why would all recordings disappear??
NeilQuote
July 5th, 2012 at 10:35 am
There is a spec sheet/user manual that can read on Humax site.
roger mellieQuote
July 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
http://videos.youview.com/support/user_guide.pdf
roger mellieQuote
July 5th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
I see that ‘Russia Today’ on 206 has recently changed to ‘RT’ on the EPG- did this happen at the same time?
HarryQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Just noticed that BBC Olympics has appeared on the EPG. Not populated though.
IanCQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Glyn and Lee S thanks for that info but I don’t want to to pay more for extra data at the moment. Not that bothered about getting the elderly films on Lovefilm. I can almost guarantee I have seen 90% of them already. This thread should be on update scan not C4 7 thread.
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Nothing appearing here for me! Is this on LCN 150?
NeilQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
It was the second item on the Guide on my Humax. I say was as I have just checked it and it was still there but suddenly disappeared when I tried to access the content. Sorry I don’t understand LCN 150.
IanCQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Re BBC Olympics, I notice that Sky have started advertising of all the HD channels, but Freesat have been conspicuous by their absence.
Shouldn’t they be out there waving the flag so that Jo public know there IS an alternative?
peterhbQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
It was there but it’s gone.
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
There was an Olympics category this afternoon but it’s gone again.
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 6th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
LCN stands for Logical Channel Number – in effect the technical term for a channel number on the platform!
As for freesat’s HD Olympic ads, where are they! I’m a bit disappointed they’ve not capitalised on this. Admin, heard any word about a forthcoming ad campaign (although they’ve left it a bit late now). Maybe they have advertised in magazines, online and newspapers too and I’ve just not seen them?? Sky are pushing the HD channels a bit but to be honest I don’t think it’s going to tempt those who don’t want Sky as they still know they’ll be tied in to a contract!
NeilQuote
July 7th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Heard nothing mate, they are noticable by their absense on this one. I received a promotion through the other day for the Wimbledon trying to do a cheesy comparison between watching it on Freesat at £150+ versus being there and paying £3000+; something about strawberry’s and pimm’s, it really was a poor ad that I didn’t want to publish in fear of a backlash!
It concerns me deeply that they haven’t pushed the Olympics and the multiple channels
adminQuote
July 7th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Perhaps they have done a deal with the dark side not to advertise them in return for something or other. Pure speculation I know.
Fancy having the British Grand Prix and the Wimbledon tennis final on at the same time. Should have been on different weekends.
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 7th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Sky are picking up the costs of satellite distribution. In return the BBC agree not to advertise.
At least we are getting the 24 HD channels on Freesat unlike pathetic Freeview. Whatever happened to platform neutrality
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 7th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
It is bad that they’ve not pushed the Olympics, wonder if they’ve concentrated their efforts on point of sale ads in shops (like Comet/Curry’s etc)? The Euro’s and Olympics are areas where Freesat could shine but as Richard says maybe there’s some alterior motive from the dark side in keeping quiet on those HD Olympic feeds in return for something on the platform from Sky, even if it is them footing the bill for the Olympic BBC feeds?
NeilQuote
July 8th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You wait all year for a great live sporting event on the BBC and then two come along at once. doh!
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Any updates on G2 spec was told spec would be out in may
The way it’s going it will not even be this year
DaveQuote
July 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Freesat are playing their cards very close to their chests lately. Joinfreesat said it would be June in April but there are no G2 boxes available yet. The Manhattan non G2 PVR isn’t even out till the end of July so expect at least 3-4 months delay before their G2 spec PVR is released.
Perhaps they are waiting to see if YouView flops or not before launching G2.
Who knows, Freesat presumably but they aren’t telling us yet.
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Manhattan Plaza G2-S Freesat+HD 1TB Digital Box (G2 spec)
That’s interesting Satbuyer are now listing a 1TB version as well as the 500GB one.
That should please some critics but not those who need DiSEqC.
Basically G2 spec is to enable connected pay tv among other features but is that really what Freesat people want. I doubt that. If you want to pay you get Sky or BtVision or Virgin or LoveFilm or Netflix via a smart tv or blu-ray or games console.
Richard CrichtonQuote
July 11th, 2012 at 5:17 am
Looks like a data channel has been added today “The Space” on Channel 908.
NeilQuote
July 11th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Not much use if it only works on a Humax or a G2 box given that no G2 Boxes are available and Freesat aren’t saying when they are launching their G2 service.
Below is the reply I got from Freesat regarding G2.
Hi Richard,
Unfortunately, we haven’t got a confirmed date of when the G2 boxes will be released, and until they are released we haven’t any information on whether it supports DiSEqC switching. You can keep up to date on any freesat information on our information channel, 999, or on our website:
Richard CrichtonQuote
April 28th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
so what is actually the G2 spec of Freesat, where can this spec documentation be downloaded?
LuQuote