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Jan 14 2013

Joinfreesat Update ScanLatest update scan on all Freesat receivers:

1 added – 408 The Active Channel
0 deleted –
3 changed – 103 ITV1 renamed ITV, 112 ITV1+1 renamed ITV+1, 119 ITV1HD renamed ITVHD

58 Responses to “Update Scan – 14/01/13”

  1. Footy Says:

    Exciting-not!

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  2. Neil Says:

    Good to see a channel addition too, every little helps and adds to the line-up. Interesting too to finally see the end of the ITV region names, end of an era! The only heritage thing left in the names are ‘Granada Reports’, ‘Central News’ etc.

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  3. Saltydawg Says:

    It’s a shame we didn’t get RT HD today as well as it launched on Sky, I expect they paid them a fortune to go behind a pay wall….

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  4. fatbloke Says:

    You can get RT HD on freesat. I have a Humax HDR and moved it yesterday from non freesat to freesat using the custom firmware. You should get it with any box using non freesat mode!

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  5. Neil Says:

    RT isn’t going behind any paywalls, can catagorically confirm that. As for it’s freesat launch, watch this space.

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  6. Matthew Says:

    >408 The Active Channel

    Not a bad addition if you’re a fitness lover. Look at their schedule.
    http://www.theactivechannel.com/schedule/

    Not something I would watch but surely something some people would, someday.

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  7. Conor Says:

    Freesat need more hd not this sort of channel they need to get their fingers out in 2013 and get more hd no SD channels they should be pushes to get at least 15 hd by the end of this year in total on to freesat platform that is including the 5 freesat already have

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  8. Rich Says:

    Sure the whole “We don’t need more SD channels, we need more HD” has been done to death? Surely any channel launched on FS is a good thing as it will be a channel that targets someones interest, maybe not the person reading this, but someone’s and therefore it’s a good. Anything that makes this platform more attractive to viewers is a good thing? I have a 32″ panasonic (more fool me) TV and yes the HD channels do look better, but SD is perfectly watchable. Surely more choice of new channels is better than duplicate HD channels that will satisfy those few who can afford a 47″ TV?

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  9. Jason Says:

    Sorry if this is slightly off-topic…

    I’ve read previously in one of the posts on this site (can’t find the quote at the moment) that Freeview and Freesat (from BBC/ITV) are supposed to operate on a like-for-like basis.

    If this is the case, does anyone know why Quest TV (from the Discovery group) is available free-to-air on Freeview but not on Freesat?
    I find it strange (unique?) that this Sky subscription channel is free-to-air on Freeview.
    Are there any plans for Quest TV to be included on Freesat?

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  10. Richard Crichton Says:

    Jason said:
    Sorry if this is slightly off-topic…
    I’ve read previously in one of the posts on this site (can’t find the quote at the moment) that Freeview and Freesat (from BBC/ITV) are supposed to operate on a like-for-like basis.
    If this is the case, does anyone know why Quest TV (from the Discovery group) is available free-to-air on Freeview but not on Freesat?
    I find it strange (unique?) that this Sky subscription channel is free-to-air on Freeview.
    Are there any plans for Quest TV to be included on Freesat?

    Not so re like for like. BBC have a platform neutral policy for their own channels but otherwise it is up to the individual providers whether they want to pay to be on Freesat. Indeed ITV. part Freesat owners. did not put HD ITV 2.3.4 on their own platform.

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  11. Russ Says:

    Jason said:
    Sorry if this is slightly off-topic…
    I’ve read previously in one of the posts on this site (can’t find the quote at the moment) that Freeview and Freesat (from BBC/ITV) are supposed to operate on a like-for-like basis.
    If this is the case, does anyone know why Quest TV (from the Discovery group) is available free-to-air on Freeview but not on Freesat?
    I find it strange (unique?) that this Sky subscription channel is free-to-air on Freeview.
    Are there any plans for Quest TV to be included on Freesat?

    Sky have Quest signed up for satellite transmission thus preventing Freesat from obtaining this channel at least until the current contract expires. Freeview is a completely different situation, broadcasting from land based transmitters Freeview have the terrestrial rights.

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  12. Richard Crichton Says:

    Rich said:
    Sure the whole “We don’t need more SD channels, we need more HD” has been done to death?Surely any channel launched on FS is a good thing as it will be a channel that targets someones interest, maybe not the person reading this, but someone’s and therefore it’s a good.Anything that makes this platform more attractive to viewers is a good thing?I have a 32″ panasonic (more fool me) TV and yes the HD channels do look better, but SD is perfectly watchable.Surely more choice of new channels is better than duplicate HD channels that will satisfy those few who can afford a 47″ TV?

    I bought a 40″ Toshiba last week for £329 and the difference bewteen SD and HD is immediately obvious.
    The truth is all TV’s sold are HD mostly full HD so why persist with new launches of SD channels. When new tech comes along it is normal for the old tech to be faded out. I don’t see any VHS , Betamax or VCD’s in the shops. I’ve got 148 TV channels on Freesat and 5 of those are HD yet I spend 95% of my time on those 5HD channels. Of the five HD channels only 2 are UK commercial tv channels. Not great support considering tv’s are getting cheaper and larger. 50″ is the new norm and my 40″ looks like at tiddler by comparison. My first 42″ has sadly gone now cost me £1500 seven years ago . A bit more support for Freesat HD from the UK commercial channels would be appreciated.

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  13. Anthony Says:

    Why does freesat need lots of SD specialist minority niche channels especially one devoted to fitness? A bit more HD output (and channels) would be rather better.

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  14. admin Says:

    Given the way freesat is operated, they are very likely to accept any broadcast channel willing to stump up the EPG fee for inclusion. If they limit themselves to HD only, given how few broadcasters actually have HD channels, the platform simply wouldn’t be able to survive. These channels are essential, no matter how niche or tasteful you feel they are.

    I’m still at a loss as to where freesat can magic some HD channels from. The only ones missing are Channel 5 HD (contract with Sky) and the ITV 2, 3 and 4 HD channels (contract with Sky).

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  15. Phil Says:

    Has BBC Wales HD come online yet.. My box still shows BBC 1 HD on 108

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  16. Barrie Says:

    Again slightly off-topic; since installing the Humax custom firmware I’ve been spending more time looking at FTA non-Freesat channels. The one stand out addition for Freesat should be the Travel channels. I have to make sure I haven’t got any recording planned because Travel Channel (and +1) really are very good, even without an epg, that I spend a lot of time watching these rather than just channel surfing the FTA stuff.

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  17. Keith Cobby Says:

    I agree with Conor and Richard Crichton, Freesat needs more HD content. I agree there are other HD channels contracted to Sky but, given that the BBC have an interest in the platform, why are the other BBC channels not transmitted in HD.

    I mostly watch the HD channels including the excellent NHK. I hope RT HD will arrive soon to put further pressure on the BBC.

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  18. Richard Crichton Says:

    Phil said:
    Has BBC Wales HD come online yet..My box still shows BBC 1 HD on 108

    It launches on the 29th January. Why the delay I don’t know.

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  19. Richard Crichton Says:

    fatbloke said:
    You can get RT HD on freesat. I have a Humax HDR and moved it yesterday from non freesat to freesat using the custom firmware. You should get it with any box using non freesat mode!

    I’ve got it stored as a HD favourite on my Manhattan no need for custom firmware.

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  20. Saltydawg Says:

    Barrie said:
    Again slightly off-topic; since installing the Humax custom firmware I’ve been spending more time looking at FTA non-Freesat channels. The one stand out addition for Freesat should be the Travel channels. I have to make sure I haven’t got any recording planned because Travel Channel (and +1) really are very good, even without an epg, that I spend a lot of time watching these rather than just channel surfing the FTA stuff.

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    I’ve emailed the Travel channel twice and both times they have said they’re not interested in joining Freesat, which is a shame as they have excellent programming and their viewing figures would go through the roof if they joined the platform.

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  21. Neil Says:

    Saltydawg said: .I’ve emailed the Travel channel twice and both times they have said they’re not interested in joining Freesat, which is a shame as they have excellent programming and their viewing figures would go through the roof if they joined the platform.

    When was the last time you emailed them? I wonder now Scripps have bought the channel they’ll have revised thoughts on this as they are the remaining factual channel still not on the EPG.

    Richard: I think the beeb have encountered delays getting the HD lines in from Cardiff and Pacific Quay (Glasgow). Is Scotland Today in native HD studio-wise? It certainly looked so today but wasn’t at home so couldn’t see it on my own kit, only a 720p set.

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  22. Saltydawg Says:

    Neil said: When was the last time you emailed them? I wonder now Scripps have bought the channel they’ll have revised thoughts on this as they are the remaining factual channel still not on the EPG.
    Richard: I think the beeb have encountered delays getting the HD lines in from Cardiff and Pacific Quay (Glasgow). Is Scotland Today in native HD studio-wise? It certainly looked so today but wasn’t at home so couldn’t see it on my own kit, only a 720p set.

    The last time I mailed them was before Christmas as I thought I’d give it another try. They actually said they had ‘no intention’ of coming to Freesat but it was the marketing team I mailed as there was no other route given at the time

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  23. mike65 Says:

    Anthony said:
    Why does freesat need lots of SD specialist minority niche channels especially one devoted to fitness? A bit more HD output (and channels) would be rather better.

    It doesn’t NEED, but it can acquire and has done so, having Active Channel does not preclude signing up other more obvious channels at a later date.

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  24. barrie Says:

    Just emailed Travel Channel again (very good website as well). Would really like to see them on Freesat.

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  25. Neil Says:

    Saltydawg said: The last time I mailed them was before Christmas as I thought I’d give it another try. They actually said they had ‘no intention’ of coming to Freesat but it was the marketing team I mailed as there was no other route given at the time

    Does seem odd as they’re now fully owned by Scripps who also own Food Network, both it’s main and timeshift channels are on the platform and have been since 2009. Travel Channel would also benefit from going widescreen too as most of their output is ARC’d 14:9 in a 4:3 frame. I’ll have a go at emailing them again this week, wonder if they have a facebook page?

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  26. Rosco Says:

    Keith Cobby said:
    I mostly watch the HD channels including the excellent NHK. I hope RT HD will arrive soon to put further pressure on the BBC.

    NHK is a superb channel – its probably the one I watch most. There are some brilliant little documentaries on there.

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  27. Tom Says:

    Great to see another channel on Freesat, but I do wonder about their schedule.

    Between the hours of 6am and 10am they’re showing teleshopping.

    Surely those early morning hours are ideal for people doing exercises after they’ve got up, got the kids to school, etc.

    Seems strange to have those hours devoid of programming for an exercise/fitness themed channel.

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  28. Richard Crichton Says:

    Reporting Scotland is native HD from Studio I would say Neil. Is RT HD confirmed for FS?
    Travel need to wake up to a potential audience of 2 million they are missing out on.
    Aljazeera in HD would be a nice addition and they should be able to afford it.
    Teleshopping overnights or gaming could pay for going HD (Perhaps).

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  29. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Reporting Scotland is native HD from Studio I would say Neil. Is RT HD confirmed for FS?Travel need to wake up to a potential audience of 2 million they are missing out on.Aljazeera in HD would be a nice addition and they should be able to afford it.Teleshopping overnights or gaming could pay for going HD (Perhaps).

    Yep, caught Reporting Scotland this morning at home and the studio shots are indeed HD and look very good. At least you’ve got some local regional HD output and not the red screen treatment any longer! I’d personally be happier to see BBC London news on BBC1 HD (England) during opts!

    Watch this space in respect to RT, can’t say much as it’s all under wraps at present but you probably get the idea! I guess with RT HD, CNN, who are also going HD later this year too, it will put pressure on the other major news-casters to do likewise. Al Jazeera, who like you say have the funding to do it, may be not far off and I reckon their existing studios are already HD equipped and played out.

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  30. Richard Crichton Says:

    A bit off topic but could indirectly affect Freesat. Yesterday HMV today Blockbuster. Where will it all end.

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  31. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: A bit off topic but could indirectly affect Freesat. Yesterday HMV today Blockbuster. Where will it all end.

    Indeeed. Blockbuster has been out-done by Lovefilm and Netflix (Lovefilm’s online DVD/Blu Ray rental out does the need for stores as delivered), as for HMV I’ve been expecting this for a long time and amazed they have survived this long. They are so expensive and never moved with the times to compete with online retailers, I guess the shareholders weren’t prepared to take the hit so down it’s gone. Walking around a shopping centre in Manchester I was impressed at how many of these ‘pop up’ shops have appeared, proves money can still be made on a small-scale level, just how things used to be!

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  32. admin Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    A bit off topic but could indirectly affect Freesat. Yesterday HMV today Blockbuster. Where will it all end.

    Can’t say I’m surprised, I feel for the majority of the staff of all these companies, but in reality, they haven’t moved with the times nor have they structured themselves correctly; employing too many staff, spending too much in the wrong areas, and generally becoming complacent.

    I said to my mate the other day that this would be the year that we see many of the big name high street retailers go; and mentioned Blockbuster and HMV in that group; he didn’t believe me! Ultimately, in that particular sector, physical products are on the drop with digital media the future.

    The only high street stores that can survive this retail shift are those where physical products are the only option, and are of the kind that really need you to see them yourself to judge whether to make a purchase. Either that or offering exceptional service (JL, M&S etc) or many names under a single roof (Debenhams).

    Without any inside information, I suspect BHS might be a victim soon!

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  33. mike65 Says:

    There’s no room for “beige” retailing now unless its very cheap and ubiquitous.

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  34. Martin Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Not so re like for like. BBC have a platform neutral policy for their own channels but otherwise it is up to the individual providers whether they want to pay to be on Freesat. Indeed ITV. part Freesat owners. did not put HD ITV 2.3.4 on their own platform.

    Just e mailed quest this morning asking them to consider freesat as pick and sky news and challenge. Is now available I ll let you know if I get a reply from them what they ll say

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  35. Russ Says:

    The Demand 5 App has been added to Samsung Freesat smart TVs. It might be worth checking out their PVRs.

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  36. Daniel Says:

    I must admit, I’m not all that bothered about the HD channels. I know it’s a good bonus & will eventually be the way forward, but at the moment Freesat should be focusing on acquiring channels for everyone’s needs. For example, there is not 1 dedicated sports channel on the service at the moment & it is the only TV service in the UK that does not offer one. This should be a priority I feel.

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  37. Richard Crichton Says:

    Russ said:
    The Demand 5 App has been added to Samsung Freesat smart TVs. It might be worth checking out their PVRs.

    I don’t think it’s a Freesat thing is it just Samsung smart hub app.

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  38. Richard Crichton Says:

    Daniel said:
    I must admit, I’m not all that bothered about the HD channels. I know it’s a good bonus & will eventually be the way forward, but at the moment Freesat should be focusing on acquiring channels for everyone’s needs. For example, there is not 1 dedicated sports channel on the service at the moment & it is the only TV service in the UK that does not offer one. This should be a priority I feel.

    And there never will be a FREE dedicated sports channel on FREE sat.

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  39. mike65 Says:

    ITV4 is edging towards becoming a de-facto sport channel when you add up all the rights they now have, I suspect they’ll add more.

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  40. Russ Says:

    Richard Crichton said: I don’t think it’s a Freesat thing is it just Samsung smart hub app.

    Yes Richard I am aware its not from Freesat. As I stated in my previous post its a Samsung App, but It is available on the Samsung Freesat enabled smart TVs and I thought it was worth a mention for those who may not have checked their smart hub recently.

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  41. Rosco Says:

    Daniel said:
    I must admit, I’m not all that bothered about the HD channels. I know it’s a good bonus & will eventually be the way forward, but at the moment Freesat should be focusing on acquiring channels for everyone’s needs. For example, there is not 1 dedicated sports channel on the service at the moment & it is the only TV service in the UK that does not offer one. This should be a priority I feel.

    Sports rights are expensive. There is no chance of a dedicated fta sports channel launching – about 5 or 6 have launched over the last 10 years, and its been an unmitigated disaster – every single one has closed, scrambled or morphed into another channel (usually a babe channel!) in a short period of time

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  42. Scotorca Says:

    Rosco said: Sports rights are expensive. There is no chance of a dedicated fta sports channel launching – about 5 or 6 have launched over the last 10 years, and its been an unmitigated disaster – every single one has closed, scrambled or morphed into another channel (usually a babe channel!) in a short period of time

    So what about Eurosport? It isn’t a pay channel, or is it?

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  43. Richard Crichton Says:

    Scotorca said: So what about Eurosport? It isn’t a pay channel, or is it?

    Yes it is a pay channel.

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  44. Justin Says:

    I’m still at a loss as to where freesat can magic some HD channels from. The only ones missing are Channel 5 HD (contract with Sky) and the ITV 2, 3 and 4 HD channels (contract with Sky).

    Film 4HD and E4HD would be nice :-)

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  45. pat greener Says:

    why can i not get channel 986

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  46. sandra Says:

    Is anybody having trouble with ITV player and BBC iplayer. I have a Humax FOXSAT-HD Plus box and keep getting the message not connected to the internet. My box is definitely connected through the hub and I have even tried changing ethernet cables but it is still not working.

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  47. Rosco Says:

    Justin said: Film 4HD and E4HD would be nice

    Both of which are virtually certain to be encrypted in the Sky HD pay pack ;)

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  48. Anthony Says:

    Rosco said: Sports rights are expensive. There is no chance of a dedicated fta sports channel launching – about 5 or 6 have launched over the last 10 years, and its been an unmitigated disaster – every single one has closed, scrambled or morphed into another channel (usually a babe channel!) in a short period of time

    Screensport in 1989 was a damned good paneuropean sports channel that was available all across Europe and the UK from Astra 1A at 19.2degE and it didn’t close as a result of financial worries at all. It merely merged with Eurosport and closed down completely March 1 1993.

    It gave coverage of all world sports and european sports for free in clear PAL with four different language soundtracks reflecting the different european markets it served:
    6.50Mhz/50uS and 7.02Mhz/PANDA1 usually carried English sound,
    7.20Mhz/PANDA1 in French,
    7.38Mhz/PANDA1 in German,
    and 7.56Mhz/PANDA1 in Dutch.

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  49. Richard Crichton Says:

    Anthony said: Screensport in 1989 was a damned good paneuropean sports channel that was available all across Europe and the UK from Astra 1A at 19.2degE and it didn’t close as a result of financial worries at all. It merely merged with Eurosport and closed down completely March 1 1993.
    It gave coverage of all world sports and european sports for free in clear PAL with four different language soundtracks reflecting the different european markets it served:
    6.50Mhz/50uS and 7.02Mhz/PANDA1 usually carried English sound,
    7.20Mhz/PANDA1 in French,
    7.38Mhz/PANDA1 in German,
    and 7.56Mhz/PANDA1 in Dutch.

    That was then and this is now.
    Sports rights were a lot cheaper back in the day before Sky made them un affordable for everyone except themselves.

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  50. Richard Crichton Says:

    Justin said: Film 4HD and E4HD would be nice

    BET HD. BET already had a temporary HD channel on Freesat.

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  51. Neil Says:

    Rosco said: Both of which are virtually certain to be encrypted in the Sky HD pay pack

    More 4 HD is to arrive behind the dreaded paywall shortly so we won’t be seeing that for the foreseeable future, sadly I presume the same is the case with Film 4 HD which will be a shame. C4 have promised though for this DTT expansion project (with the temporary HD Mux’s being licensed 2014 – 2018) that they’ll make two of their services available in HD and thus stand a good chance at bringing them to freesat too. My guess would be 4Seven and E4HD, reckon the costs involved with this will be offset by Sky taking Film4 and More4 for the next few years.

    The beeb have also said they’ll make a third channel available in HD, personally and as stated before, I’d like to see them offer all their services in HD, at least BBC Three and Four, plus the News Channel.

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  52. Mick 62 Says:

    Speaking of Updates. When is the Advertising Banner (there is no catch) Going to be Updated as its at least 2 years old. And as i remember had a lot of negative comments on this sight at the time of when the Advertising Campaign was running.

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  53. Mick 62 Says:

    How about using Ad Banner space to Advertise the new Free Time service? Sorry meant to add that to my previous comment.

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  54. Sensible Paul. Says:

    pat greener said:
    why can i not get channel 986

    That was the old Teletext channel, wasn’t it? They no longer broadcast on satellite. Teletext Holidays is on channel 201 on Freeview.

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  55. Mick 62 Says:

    Anthony said: Screensport in 1989 was a damned good paneuropean sports channel that was available all across Europe and the UK from Astra 1A at 19.2degE and it didn’t close as a result of financial worries at all. It merely merged with Eurosport and closed down completely March 1 1993.
    It gave coverage of all world sports and european sports for free in clear PAL with four different language soundtracks reflecting the different european markets it served:
    6.50Mhz/50uS and 7.02Mhz/PANDA1 usually carried English sound,
    7.20Mhz/PANDA1 in French,
    7.38Mhz/PANDA1 in German,
    and 7.56Mhz/PANDA1 in Dutch.

    Anthony said: Screensport in 1989 was a damned good paneuropean sports channel that was available all across Europe and the UK from Astra 1A at 19.2degE and it didn’t close as a result of financial worries at all. It merely merged with Eurosport and closed down completely March 1 1993.
    It gave coverage of all world sports and european sports for free in clear PAL with four different language soundtracks reflecting the different european markets it served:
    6.50Mhz/50uS and 7.02Mhz/PANDA1 usually carried English sound,
    7.20Mhz/PANDA1 in French,
    7.38Mhz/PANDA1 in German,
    and 7.56Mhz/PANDA1 in Dutch.

    Come On Now. That was 20 odd years ago. Did you miss The Millennium or something. Glad you’ve finally woken up I’m surprised you’ve heard of Freeview let alone Freesat.

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  56. Conor Says:

    Every body who reads this have to phone channel 4 and5 and others saying that you are treating us like second class citizens Witch they are and then they will have to take us seriously and do what is required and put there hd channels on freesat and tell sky where to go

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  57. Steven Morgan Says:

    I am confused BBC One Wales went HD on Tuesday. On my boc BBC One HD had moved to 974 but no BBC One Wales HD on 108.

    Has there been an official update scan?

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  58. John Says:

    I too have the same problem,I have a Ps3 and get the same problem,has anyone out there got the answer,I am new to the gamer so perhaps it is me! Sandra and I need your help.

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