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Jul 17 2012

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49 Responses to “Update Scan – 17/07/12”

  1. roger mellie Says:

    Another addition, always good for Freesat, if the viewers don’t like it then don’t watch it (or moan about it.)

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  2. Neil Says:

    There can’t be many of the shopping channels left not on the platform now I guess?

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  3. steven.w Says:

    i agree with @1 probably wont watch it but, its always there if i do.

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  4. Al Catraz Says:

    I see $ky are cashing in on the BBC Olympic coverage – saw an ad last night saying basically that the Beeb will have 24 channels of Olympics coverage and you can watch them all on $ky – why aren’t FREESAT doing likewise?

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  5. admin Says:

    Al Catraz said:
    I see $ky are cashing in on the BBC Olympic coverage – saw an ad last night saying basically that the Beeb will have 24 channels of Olympics coverage and you can watch them all on $ky – why aren’t FREESAT doing likewise?

    It is believed that as part of Sky paying for the entire service, that no other platform can advertise it. Obviously if Freeview are advertising it (haven’t noticed myself) or there isn’t such an agreement in place, it is a poor show by Freesat.

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  6. Ian Vallender Says:

    Pitty its NOT Channel5 hd what are channel 5 thinking and what is the encryption for as its no longer needed. High street tv not one of the most popular shopping channels this country has to offer.

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  7. Richard Crichton Says:

    admin said: It is believed that as part of Sky paying for the entire service, that no other platform can advertise it. Obviously if Freeview are advertising it (haven’t noticed myself) or there isn’t such an agreement in place, it is a poor show by Freesat.

    How have Freeview found the space for 24 additional channels? Isn’t the platform bursting at the seams as we are always told?

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  8. Richard Crichton Says:

    Ian Vallender said:
    Pitty its NOT Channel5 hd what are channel 5 thinking and what is the encryption for as its no longer needed. High street tv not one of the most popular shopping channels this country has to offer.

    Do CH5 show anything in native HD or is it nearly all upscaled SD?
    They are thinking additional cost versis potential additional profits (or not).

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  9. admin Says:

    Richard Crichton said: How have Freeview found the space for 24 additional channels? Isn’t the platformbursting at the seams as we are always told?

    Maybe they don’t have them, might just be my lack of research ;)

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  10. Richard Crichton Says:

    Al Catraz said:
    I see $ky are cashing in on the BBC Olympic coverage – saw an ad last night saying basically that the Beeb will have 24 channels of Olympics coverage and you can watch them all on $ky – why aren’t FREESAT doing likewise?

    So Sky are paying for the advertising as well as the satellite costs. That’s good then because everyone knows the Beeb is platform neutral and anything Beeb on $ky will also be available on the FTA platforms so is there really any advantage for Freesat to spend millions advertising the obvious for little or no benefit to Freesat.

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  11. Richard Crichton Says:

    admin said: Maybe they don’t have them, might just be my lack of research

    Its an interesting question. I don’t know if they do or not. google
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/rogermosey/2012/04/since_the_start_of_our.html
    Looks like 2 on freeview then admin.

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  12. admin Says:

    Richard Crichton said: So Sky are paying for the advertising as well as the satellite costs. That’s good then because everyone knows the Beeb is platform neutral and anything Beeb on $ky will also be available on the FTA platforms so is there really any advantage for Freesat to spend millions advertising the obvious for little or no benefit to Freesat.

    Personally I think Freesat pushing marketing/advetisement for the Olympics would have been a great success to encourage customers over from Freeview. A strong advert for the Tesco Manhattan/Install deal would have worked very well as a cost effective way of switching over.

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  13. Richard Crichton Says:

    admin said: Personally I think Freesat pushing marketing/advetisement for the Olympics would have been a great success to encourage customers over from Freeview. A strong advert for the Tesco Manhattan/Install deal would have worked very well as a cost effective way of switching over.

    I tend to agree. Looks like Freesat/Beeb have done a deal with Sky not to advertise their availability on Freesat. :-( in return for Sky picking up the satellite costs. That shouldn’t stop retailers advertising so why aren’t they I wonder unless they are getting backhanders to stay stum (pure speculation on my part btw).

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  14. Richard Crichton Says:

    admin said: Personally I think Freesat pushing marketing/advetisement for the Olympics would have been a great success to encourage customers over from Freeview. A strong advert for the Tesco Manhattan/Install deal would have worked very well as a cost effective way of switching over.

    So why aren’t the retailers advertising? Even if the BEEB have told Sky they will keep stum that shouldn’t affect them as well.

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  15. Paul Says:

    Richard Crichton said: That’s good then because everyone knows the Beeb is platform neutral and anything Beeb on $ky will also be available on the FTA platforms …….

    I would say that rather than “everyone knows”, only a small percentage of the population would even understand the term “platform neutral” when applied to broadcasting, and only a subset of them are aware that the BBC are platform neutral.

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  16. Richard Crichton Says:

    Paul said: I would say that rather than “everyone knows”, only a small percentage of the population would even understand the term “platform neutral” when applied to broadcasting, and only a subset of them are aware that the BBC are platform neutral.

    So do the public think the BBC would put 24 Olympic channels on the Sky platform but keep them off Freesat? It seems the BBC are no longer platform neutral in this case as they are not putting 24 Olympic channels on Freeview.
    The telling thing about Sky advertising the 24 channels is what they don’t say not what they do but whether Joe Public would pick up on that is another matter. They don’t say only on Sky.
    This site gets thousands of hits a month so presumably most people who visit know the situation regarding the 24 Olympic channels on Freesat. Keep up the good work admin.

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  17. Neil Says:

    admin said: Personally I think Freesat pushing marketing/advetisement for the Olympics would have been a great success to encourage customers over from Freeview. A strong advert for the Tesco Manhattan/Install deal would have worked very well as a cost effective way of switching over.

    I agree too there, to me it’s very disappointing they’ve not gone for a marketing push but if there was some deal for these channels to be carried and paid for by Sky for no marketing elsewhere then it makes sense that was the offer on the table. VM haven’t made any noise about them either and are carrying all of them too so that might be the reason we’ve heard nothing from freesat either.

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  18. Muzer Says:

    Yeah – on Freeview, it’s one 24-hour channel and a HD simulcast (301 and 301 HD), and one part-time SD channel (BBC Three’s old hours – 302). They do of course also have the 24-hour BBC Three, BBC One and BBC One HD and BBC HD.

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  19. Neil Says:

    We’ll have to see if the beeb keep BBC1HD and BBC HD all at 1920x1080i res once the 5th HD (Olympic) stream appears on Freeview otherwise they’ll drop them down again on Satellite. There should be one big update scan the week after next when all these HD Olympic feeds and a full time BBC Three get on the EPG.

    On the subject of unit sales, admin, have you heard the latest on any numbers closer to the 3m mark? I see the Humax HDR’s are still selling well on Amazon.

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  20. admin Says:

    Neil said:
    On the subject of unit sales, admin, have you heard the latest on any numbers closer to the 3m mark? I see the Humax HDR’s are still selling well on Amazon.

    Humax HDR’s are absolutely flying out the door everywhere at the moment and Humax cannot keep up with demand!!! No publically available update on sales figures sorry; they’ve been tight lipped for quite a while now.

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  21. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said:
    We’ll have to see if the beeb keep BBC1HD and BBC HD all at 1920x1080i res once the 5th HD (Olympic) stream appears on Freeview otherwise they’ll drop them down again on Satellite. There should be one big update scan the week after next when all these HD Olympic feeds and a full time BBC Three get on the EPG.
    On the subject of unit sales, admin, have you heard the latest on any numbers closer to the 3m mark? I see the Humax HDR’s are still selling well on Amazon.

    They will have to keep it at 1920 if there is any 3D broadcasts.
    Could Humax’s sales boom have anything to do with the availability of hacked firmware I wonder or is it more to do with all the connected services working.

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  22. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: They will have to keep it at 1920 if there is any 3D broadcasts.
    Could Humax’s sales boom have anything to do with the availability of hacked firmware I wonder or is it more to do with all the connected services working.

    Humax’s have always sold well, it’s good to know they are doing well for the freesat market too. I guess with people tightening up their belts the platform’s attracting more and more Sky churners and good too!

    I guess, as you say, they’ll keep the res at 1920 for 3D during the Olympics and I’m hoping all the DTT HD services remain at 1920 too as it means DSAT HD ones will stay at that as well!

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  23. admin Says:

    There is no indication as to why Humax are selling so well at this present time; maybe customers upgrading to Freesat+ to record the olympics; who knows!

    Lets not forget that the Humax is a cracking receiver, but so is the Echostar, even if you don’t want the additional functionality and can cope with the odd look!!!

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  24. Neil Says:

    Yep, your right there. I’d have thought over time the Manhattan HDR-S may sell a fair few unit sales. I wonder if freesat have concentrated their efforts on in-store and online targetted advertising?

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  25. roger mellie Says:

    Freeview had a pretty good advert regarding the “summer of sport/olympics etc” on tv this morning. Pity Freesat don’t seem to be pushing their platform.

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  26. digiwatcher Says:

    Admin
    Any chance of adding a facebook link page at anytime?

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  27. admin Says:

    digiwatcher said:
    Admin
    Any chance of adding a facebook link page at anytime?

    I don’t do Facebook :)

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  28. Richard Crichton Says:

    roger mellie said:
    Freeview had a pretty good advert regarding the “summer of sport/olympics etc” on tv this morning. Pity Freesat don’t seem to be pushing their platform.

    But neither are the big retailers Curry’s,Comet etc. It’s always tucked away in a corner. That’s what I don’t get.

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  29. Richard Crichton Says:

    Come to think of it I think they are all scared to push Freesat until the G2 big push happens which may be in time for the winter holiday period (hopefully). Or they don’t want the hassle when people find out they can’t get ITV Player, The Space etc on their brand new box.

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  30. roger mellie Says:

    Was in pub other evening and talking to a pal, he hadn’t a clue what Freesat was, same with a few others who seem to believe Sly to be the “be-all-and-end-all” in viewing choice! If you ask me Freesat must the best-kept secret in broadcasting!

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  31. Richard Crichton Says:

    roger mellie said:
    Was in pub other evening and talking to a pal, he hadn’t a clue what Freesat was, same with a few others who seem to believe Sly to be the “be-all-and-end-all” in viewing choice! If you ask me Freesat must the best-kept secret in broadcasting!

    Indeed it is but they only have themselves to blame for that. They refuse point blank or have a policy not to promote Freesat on their own Channels. I was down at Asda and there was one pathetic Goodmans SD Freesat box for sale amidst about two dozen Freeview boxes. Also there is only one HD box that works with all the connected services and loads that don’t so the retailers don’t want to get their fingers burnt and who can blame them.. An omnishambles in other words.

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  32. digiwatcher Says:

    roger mellie said:
    Was in pub other evening and talking to a pal, he hadn’t a clue what Freesat was, same with a few others who seem to believe Sly to be the “be-all-and-end-all” in viewing choice! If you ask me Freesat must the best-kept secret in broadcasting!

    I have to agree, even the TV magazines heavily promote Freeview and Sky with hardly any mention of Freesat. I think its time someone else stepped into the shoes of moving it forward, the interaction between them and the customers is in the least ‘minimal’ and for the advertising, they don’t actual give an understanding of what Freesat actual is.

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  33. Richard Crichton Says:

    There is news of a firmware upgrade for the Manhattan Plaza HD-S and a link here http://www.avforums.com/forums/freesat/1524926-manhattan-hd-s-owners-thread-2.html#post17328720 which allegedly gives you ITV player and addresses the auto stand by bug. I have not tested this and am merely passing on the news.

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  34. Richard Crichton Says:

    It looks like there is going to be a firmware upgrade for the Manhattan HD-S soon if a comment on the AV forum is true.

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  35. admin Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    It looks like there is going to be a firmware upgrade for the Manhattan HD-S soon if a comment on the AV forum is true.

    Yep, was originally announced on here; they are waiting final approval from Freesat.

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  36. Richard Crichton Says:

    admin said: Yep, was originally announced on here; they are waiting final approval from Freesat.

    Manhattan have already given out the new firmware to a customer who phoned support and he has had it working for a week with no problems.

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  37. peterhb Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Indeed it is but they only have themselves to blame for that. They refuse point blank or have a policy not to promote Freesat on their own Channels. I was down at Asda and there was one pathetic Goodmans SD Freesat box for sale amidst about two dozen Freeview boxes. Also there is only one HD box that works with all the connected services and loads that don’t so the retailers don’t want to get their fingers burnt and who can blame them.. An omnishambles in other words.

    Yep, I got my fingers burnt here. Bought a Panasonic Freesat PVR at the end of last year.It doesn’t support ITV player and now I find I can’t get the new space channel either, also not supported. SO I can understand retailers not pushing the such items, after all they don’t want them being returned as ‘not fit for purpose’.I guess we all got to go the Humax route?

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  38. Richard Crichton Says:

    I’ve just upgraded the firmware of my Manhattan HD-S to version 1.44 via the rear USB.
    Supports ITV Player which can be launched via freesat channel 903.
    • Fixed an issue where the SCART audio left/right outputs would only
    output audio in mono.
    • Fixed an issue with Auto Turn Off, Auto Turn On and Auto Standby timer
    functions that would cause them to work intermittently.
    • Fixed an issue where pressing back to cancel the programme reminder
    prompt would not work correctly.
    • Increased HDMI audio output level to bring it level with the sound from
    most TV’s internal analogue/digital tuners.

    If you live in Scotland you need to be using a borders postcode during box setup to get ITV Player on 903. I forgot about that.

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  39. Revolting Pensioner ! Says:

    SO WHERE IS THE HDSR 400 AVAILABLE FROM ?
    TRIED THE STATED LINKS AND ALL IT DOES IS ‘TIME OUT’.
    ANY HELP ?

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  40. admin Says:

    Revolting Pensioner ! said:
    SO WHERE IS THE HDSR 400 AVAILABLE FROM ?
    TRIED THE STATED LINKS AND ALL IT DOES IS ‘TIME OUT’.
    ANY HELP ?

    No idea what the HDSR 400 is, but if you mean the Manhattan HD-S, then the link to Tesco works just fine.

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  41. Mark White Says:

    Richard Crichton said:
    I’ve just upgraded the firmware of my Manhattan HD-S to version 1.44 via the rear USB.
    Supports ITV Player which can be launched via freesat channel 903.
    • Fixed an issue where the SCART audio left/right outputs would only
    output audio in mono.
    • Fixed an issue with Auto Turn Off, Auto Turn On and Auto Standby timer
    functions that would cause them to work intermittently.
    • Fixed an issue where pressing back to cancel the programme reminder
    prompt would not work correctly.
    • Increased HDMI audio output level to bring it level with the sound from
    most TV’s internal analogue/digital tuners.
    If you live in Scotland you need to be using a borders postcode during box setup to get ITV Player on 903. I forgot about that.

    So ITV player works Richatd with the update, what about The Space?

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  42. Mark White Says:

    I notice on the Freesat website there are a number of senior jobs advertised, perhaps this is what will really push Freesat forward?

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  43. roger mellie Says:

    Richard Crichton said: I’ve just upgraded the firmware of my Manhattan HD-S to version 1.44 via the rear USB.Supports ITV Player which can be launched via freesat channel 903.• Fixed an issue where the SCART audio left/right outputs would onlyoutput audio in mono.• Fixed an issue with Auto Turn Off, Auto Turn On and Auto Standby timerfunctions that would cause them to work intermittently.• Fixed an issue where pressing back to cancel the programme reminderprompt would not work correctly.• Increased HDMI audio output level to bring it level with the sound frommost TV’s internal analogue/digital tuners.If you live in Scotland you need to be using a borders postcode during box setup to get ITV Player on 903. I forgot about that.

    If you use a Borders postcode i.e. TD1 1AA you will receive ch977 ITV 1 London (HD via red button press), ch103 ITV1 Borders, ch119 ITV1 Granada HD. 3 regional variations of ITV to choose from. Handy option

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  44. Richard Crichton Says:

    Mark White said: So ITV player works Richatd with the update, what about The Space?

    I’m assured that it does work (see AVForums Manhattan owners thread) but can’t confirm as I’m in Scotland so its not on my EPG.
    The Space dosen’t work.

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  45. Richard Crichton Says:

    Mark White said: So ITV player works Richatd with the update, what about The Space?

    Re:ITV player,
    I get a message saying THE SERVICE IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. PLEASE TRY AGAIN LATER. (10001)

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  46. Richard Crichton Says:

    Can confirm ITV player works with the new Manhattan Plaza HD-S 1.44 firmware.

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  47. dave Says:

    IT LOOKS LIKE THE G2 SPEC IS NOT COMING ;-)
    it seems every other company is ahead of freesat at the moment
    whats up ………
    i have just seen in new argos book there selling a freeview hd+ box with built in youview …and what i have read freesat was suppose to be similar to youview ????

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  48. Richard Crichton Says:

    dave said:
    IT LOOKS LIKE THE G2 SPEC IS NOT COMING
    it seems every other company is ahead of freesat at the moment
    whats up ………
    i have just seen in new argos book there selling a freeview hd+ box with built in youview …and what i have read freesat was suppose to be similar to youview ????

    That s fine if you have £300 to spend. Think I’ll wait to see what develops.

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  49. Richard Crichton Says:

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