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Mar 26 2013

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55 Responses to “Update Scan – 26/03/13”

  1. Darren Speck Says:

    Hi Admin,

    I see on another forum that Viva went FTA and is due to launch on Freesat, any news on whether this is true? If so this is great news, along witht the launch of the Travel Channel its been a good year so far with pick tv, challenge and sky news too.

    Lets show yourview!! :-)

    Thanks

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  2. Neil Says:

    Darren Speck said:
    Hi Admin,
    I see on another forum that Viva went FTA and is due to launch on Freesat, any news on whether this is true? If so this is great news, along witht the launch of the Travel Channel its been a good year so far with pick tv, challenge and sky news too.
    Lets show yourview!!
    Thanks

    Nothing solid confirmed on Viva apart from word of mouth but the fact it’s gone FTA does put some mileage in to it. There’ll be another change tomorrow as the Massive R’n’B channel rebrands to something like ‘Planet Pop’. One thing freesat has got in it’s favour is the big selection of music channels.

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  3. Robert Says:

    Found Viva on my freesat player :) in Ireland So it will come to England. I would Guess

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  4. Dan Says:

    anyone know the frequency & signal numbers to get viva on non freesat mode? Also where’s the travel channel & +1?

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  5. admin Says:

    Dan said:
    anyone know the frequency & signal numbers to get viva on non freesat mode? Also where’s the travel channel & +1?

    Viva 11.895 V 27500 2/3
    Travel 12.560 V 27500 2/3

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  6. Dan Says:

    To answer myself, it seems almost certain that both travel channel & viva will launch on 2nd April

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  7. Dan Says:

    Thanks Admin, top job as always!

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  8. Dan Says:

    I can’t change my FEC from 3/4 to 2/3. So I can’t add this service :/

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  9. Andy Says:

    Sorry to see the demise of BBC HD. What will happen to programmes on BBC 3 and BBC 4 that used get HD airings on BBC HD?

    When this move was first announced, the BBC suggested that BBC3/4 content would get slots late at night on BBC 2 HD but it’s hardly the same thing and I remain unconvinced that it will actually happen. (A quick glance in this week’s Radio Times proves it.)

    I expect there will be many occasions when a perfectly good programme on BBC 4 filmed in HD won’t be available in HD anywhere while we get something upscaled on the new channel.

    A sad day for HD.

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  10. Dan Says:

    With the money they get from the licence fee, it seems a shame that BBC can’t manage to launch all of it’s channels in HD & with +1 time shifts, like almost every other free to air channel manages to!

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  11. Al Catraz Says:

    Now the BBC have a spanking new full-HD news studio, any rumours/hearsay about BBC NEWS HD coming to a free satellite platform near you…?

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  12. mike65 Says:

    A step backwards.

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  13. Dave w Says:

    This is all good stuff new channels coming like viva-travel channel

    What about uktv channel for Christmas 2013 gift

    Or is there any news about anyone else bringing freetime box out ?

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  14. vic Says:

    will Eurosport ever come to freesat

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  15. Keith Cobby Says:

    Sky News will be broadcasting in HD before BBC News.

    The 21st century, new shiny studios and still in the dark ages.

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  16. Neil Says:

    Keith Cobby said:
    Sky News will be broadcasting in HD before BBC News.
    The 21st century, new shiny studios and still in the dark ages.

    All the BBC’s news output studio-wise is done in HD, the 1, 6 and 10 on BBC One are in HD, as is overnights.

    If you want to see BBC News in HD then it’s available 1100 – 1130 weekdays on BBC2 HD, looks good. They also then broadcast BBC World News output for half an hour 1130 – 1200.

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  17. Dan Says:

    Begs the question why BBC NEWS 24 isn’t HD then?

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  18. Brian Damage Says:

    Bye-bye BBC HD. You were jaw droppingly amazing for a while, and then not so much…. but still always worth watching.

    However, I never liked your DOG (especially when you started using it all the time) or your minimal broadcast hours. I believe both reduced your viewing audience.

    Roll on BBC Two HD: the latest incarnation of this amazing BBC channel. No big fat dumbed down gypsy weddings here! Anyone else for a Sir David Attenborough special? Seems only fitting…

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  19. Dan Says:

    Any news on whether travel channel +1 will launch with it’s live channel?

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  20. Neil Says:

    Dan said:
    Any news on whether travel channel +1 will launch with it’s live channel?

    I guess we’ll find out next Tuesday! When Scripps launched Food Network on to the platform it arrived with it’s +1 but guess it depends on whether they decide to do the same with Travel Channel. If not then I’m sure it will arrive at a later stage as they’ve reseved an EPG slot (406) for it.

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  21. Richard Crichton Says:

    Andy said:
    Sorry to see the demise of BBC HD. What will happen to programmes on BBC 3 and BBC 4 that used get HD airings on BBC HD?
    When this move was first announced, the BBC suggested that BBC3/4 content would get slots late at night on BBC 2 HD but it’s hardly the same thing and I remain unconvinced that it will actually happen. (A quick glance in this week’s Radio Times proves it.)
    I expect there will be many occasions when a perfectly good programme on BBC 4 filmed in HD won’t be available in HD anywhere while we get something upscaled on the new channel.
    A sad day for HD.

    There is some news about some of those programs on the FS information channel. I suspect if it was filmed in HD it will get an airing on BBC2 HD some time in the future otherwise why bother filming in HD.

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  22. Richard Crichton Says:

    Dan said:
    With the money they get from the licence fee, it seems a shame that BBC can’t manage to launch all of it’s channels in HD & with +1 time shifts, like almost every other free to air channel manages to!

    I agree however with their present misguided policy of platform neutrality they would have to launch on DTT as well and there is no room to do that at present although there may well be in the future when (if) more spectrum is released.

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  23. Keith Cobby Says:

    Perhaps what we need here is a separate ‘thread’ to exclusively comment on the BBC and their lack of action with HD programming.

    The BBC have a financial involvement in Freesat and are awash with money.

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  24. Dan Says:

    No to mention the BBC have also sold almost all of their live football & other major sporting coverage in recent years.
    To list a few:-
    Football -Live football from the League Cup & Football League, Northern Ireland Football Internationals (BBC N.I.)
    Motor Sport – Half of the F1 races each season
    Golf – The Ryder Cup, BMW PGA Championship & Scottish Open
    Horse Racing – The Grand National
    Tennis – French Open & Davis Cup
    Rugby – Anglo Welsh Cup

    This is an incredible amount of sports coverage to lose in a 5 year period! It also includes many big events which have moved to other FTA broadcasters, so it’s not like they were always out-priced by Sky Sports.

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  25. johnevans Says:

    is it true viva is coming to freeset

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  26. Richard Crichton Says:

    johnevans said:
    is it true viva is coming to freeset
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    See post 6. It appears so else why go FTA?

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  27. Richard Crichton Says:

    Re: series recordings Fans of Bluestone 42 and In The Flesh will need to set a new SD recording on BBC Three in order to catch the remaining episodes.
    What a swine if the rest of your recordings are in HD. Not good enough BBC.

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  28. Neil Says:

    Massive RnB has now been relabelled to ‘Planet Pop’ following rebrand.

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  29. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said:
    Massive RnB has now been relabelled to ‘Planet Pop’ following rebrand.

    Any idea why they have done that? No money in RnB?

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  30. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said: All the BBC’s news output studio-wise is done in HD, the 1, 6 and 10 on BBC One are in HD, as is overnights.
    If you want to see BBC News in HD then it’s available 1100 – 1130 weekdays on BBC2 HD, looks good. They also then broadcast BBC World News output for half an hour 1130 – 1200.

    I think Keith means why no BBC News HD channel.

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  31. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Any idea why they have done that? No money in RnB?

    I presume it’s not performing well enough for them. There’s a lot of music channels on UK Satellite all competing for similar markets, AATW, who own Clubland, Massive RnB and Ch. AKA, have probably decided to rebrand Massive to a more pop brand so to compete with Global and CSC.

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  32. Richard Crichton Says:

    Keith Cobby said:
    Perhaps what we need here is a separate ‘thread’ to exclusively comment on the BBC and their lack of action with HD programming.
    The BBC have a financial involvement in Freesat and are awash with money.

    Hardly awash with money. They are skint after building a new broadcast center in Salford and also Glasgow and building a massive extension onto Broadcasting House in London also they have to fund BBC World Service now that was formerly paid for by the Government. That and having the licence fee frozen for 6yrs . It’s Sky that is awash with money. 11 million subscribers paying anything up to £65 a month is an awful lot of dosh even more than a Premier League Footballer :-)

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  33. alexander Says:

    One way that the BBC HD channel can be used again is to let Reseach & Development use the channel for satellite tests.

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  34. Rosco Says:

    vic said:
    will Eurosport ever come to freesat

    No chance whatsoever. In the whole of Europe there is only one fta version – and thats the German language service on 19E.

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  35. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: Hardly awash with money. They are skint after building a new broadcast center in Salford and also Glasgow and building a massive extension onto Broadcasting House in London also they have to fund BBC World Service now that was formerly paid for by the Government. That and having the licence fee frozen for 6yrs . It’s Sky that is awash with money. 11 million subscribers paying anything up to £65 a month is an awful lot of dosh even more than a Premier League Footballer

    Perhaps the government should ‘top slice’ Sky’s pre-tax profit and use part of it to support other broadcast providers, just like they’ve done with the BBC!

    I also strongly disagree to Sky taking any money from the PSB’s in relation platform contribution costs. The beeb still pay Sky £5m/yr just to be on their platform, PSB EPG inclusion costs should be regulated to that of Freeview/Freesat for all platforms to make it a level playing field.

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  36. Dave Says:

    UKTV???

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  37. Dave Says:

    It would make my year if or when DAVE comes to freesat :-)

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  38. johnevans Says:

    its not been confirmed that viva is coming to Freeset and i would like to see Dave and yesterday on freeset but not getting my hopes up anytime soon

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  39. mike65 Says:

    Rosco said: No chance whatsoever. In the whole of Europe there is only one fta version – and thats the German language service on 19E.

    I’d have that one! Nothing like a bit of obscure winter sport and the Rachau Hill climb in the summer.

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  40. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said: Perhaps the government should ‘top slice’ Sky’s pre-tax profit and use part of it to support other broadcast providers, just like they’ve done with the BBC!
    I also strongly disagree to Sky taking any money from the PSB’s in relation platform contribution costs. The beeb still pay Sky £5m/yr just to be on their platform, PSB EPG inclusion costs should be regulated to that of Freeview/Freesat for all platforms to make it a level playing field.

    I was wrong Sky are so hard up that ‘The Sun’ online is going behind a pay wall.
    That’s what happens if you pay hundreds of millions for football rights and your subscriber base stalls. Some PL footie ballers get a £million a month in wages’

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  41. Richard Crichton Says:

    Neil said: Perhaps the government should ‘top slice’ Sky’s pre-tax profit and use part of it to support other broadcast providers, just like they’ve done with the BBC!
    I also strongly disagree to Sky taking any money from the PSB’s in relation platform contribution costs. The beeb still pay Sky £5m/yr just to be on their platform, PSB EPG inclusion costs should be regulated to that of Freeview/Freesat for all platforms to make it a level playing field.

    I agree. It’s crazy. Sky should be paying the BBC to be on their walled garden platform as circumstances have changed dramatically since the early days of Pay Sat.. Have you seen Sky’s pathetic ad about the fabulous shows they are making in the next six months and how we are missing out. They must think people are stupid.

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  42. Richard Crichton Says:

    Rosco said: No chance whatsoever. In the whole of Europe there is only one fta version – and thats the German language service on 19E.
    </blockquote

    Not the FTA version.Connected who knows it might (or not) via a pay app on Freetime. A bit ironic though calling it Freetime and then charging. You can get most of the pay channels on TalkTalk Youview at a price so why would Freetime be any different.

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  43. Andy Says:

    alexander said:
    One way that the BBC HD channel can be used again is to let Reseach & Development use the channel for satellite tests.

    The channel slot has been used for BBC Two HD so there’s no chance of that.

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  44. alexander Says:

    Andy said: The channel slot has been used for BBC Two HD so there’s no chance of that.

    Andy said: The channel slot has been used for BBC Two HD so there’s no chance of that.

    The only way that the BBC can carry all its channels in HD is on the satellite platform.

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  45. Rosco Says:

    mike65 said: I’d have that one! Nothing like a bit of obscure winter sport and the Rachau Hill climb in the summer.

    You can easily have it for fairly minimal outlay and a bit of extra equipment.

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  46. Brian Damage Says:

    alexander said: The only way that the BBC can carry all its channels in HD is on the satellite platform.

    Err.. Wrong! Lots of potential capacity on DVB-T2 and cable. Satellite is probably the most expensive option, so may be the least likely.

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  47. ian Says:

    DTT is the most expensive option.
    The BBC Won’t ever change their platform neutral stance.
    In some ways, i understand why its there, but the way it is practiced is the major issue i have with it.
    Limiting channels in terms of broadcast quality to the lowest maximum is one, you exploit each and every platform to the max. Just because one chooses to use satellite as their TV provider should not mean they have to suffer the limits of what DTT can carry. I choose satellite because of the quality it is able to carry. I expect to see that and not see the poor quality DTT is able to carry.
    Limiting the fact BBC Three HD & BBC Four HD have no space to launch on DTT means no one gets them, well. im sorry, but tough titties to DTT users.
    I only hope this new incoming DG has a spine and something down below and sorts this. But i can wish into one had, puke into the other, you know which will fill first!
    BBC Two HD. . . . . .LOLOLOL!!!
    What a joke!
    (Rant over, sorry!)

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  48. Neil Says:

    Richard Crichton said: I was wrong Sky are so hard up that ‘The Sun’ online is going behind a pay wall.
    That’s what happens if you pay hundreds of millions for football rights and your subscriber base stalls. Some PL footie ballers get a £million a month in wages’

    I heard about that, glad it’s going behind a paywall as might dampen it’s popularity amongst those who read it, thus fall flat on it’s face for NI. Why should people pay for news when it’s free on the BBC, other news organisations and, dare I say it, Sky’s website too!

    Richard Crichton said: I agree. It’s crazy. Sky should be paying the BBC to be on their walled garden platform as circumstances have changed dramatically since the early days of Pay Sat.. Have you seen Sky’s pathetic ad about the fabulous shows they are making in the next six months and how we are missing out. They must think people are stupid.

    I’ve not seen that one, although have noticed the ‘Awesome Foursome’ appears now to have dropped to £15 for first 6mths so must be seriously struggling to get new takers. Sadly their broadband on the Awesome Foursome deal is the freebie 2GB capped allowance with mega high contention! Ping times are …. and it’s unbelievably slow, especially during peak hours.

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  49. Keith Cobby Says:

    The BBC news operation is on strike at the moment so that should save some money. It is well known that when they cover news stories either domestically or around the world they send many times the number of staff deployed by any other news agency.

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  50. Dan Says:

    On freesat, as well as a space saved for 5HD, viva & 4music when they all choose to join, there is a space between the BBC & ITV channels (no 111). Does anyone know what the reason for this is or what it is being saved for, if it is at all?

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  51. Neil Says:

    Dan said:
    On freesat, as well as a space saved for 5HD, viva & 4music when they all choose to join, there is a space between the BBC & ITV channels (no 111). Does anyone know what the reason for this is or what it is being saved for, if it is at all?

    I was told the BBC had that reserved for something once but obviously not now. Maybe it’s being held for local TV services that join the platform in different parts of the country.

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  52. Dan Says:

    This is true. On another forum, someone suggested it was being saved for ‘insportive’, the new channel that will show coverage from many olympic sports that rarely get live broadcasting other than during the games. They are already on the TV catchup app & are due to launch this summer on TV services.

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  53. Neil Says:

    Dan said:
    March 31st, 2013 at 11:30 am

    This is true. On another forum, someone suggested it was being saved for ‘insportive’, the new channel that will show coverage from many olympic sports that rarely get live broadcasting other than during the games. They are already on the TV catchup app & are due to launch this summer on TV services.

    Qu

    I thought Sport had it’s own reserved area (350+ possibly) in the EPG and with the 100-199 section being entertainment can’t seem them adding this channel here. I’m amazed ITV+1 didn’t go here with ITV HD on 112, would have made more sense. I think they’ll use that slot in areas where local TV goes on Satellite to the specific postcode mapped service for that region.

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  54. Dan Says:

    Well on the guide news & sport are grouped as one section so possibly 250+? Especially as it’s unlikely there will ever be over 50 news channels, as most that launch in HD share with their SD counterpart.

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  55. Neil Says:

    So it is, guess your probably right and that sports would be 250+ then.

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