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Mar 06 2013

Following the announcement that YouTube would launch on freesat’s <free time> service, we can confirm that it is due to launch tomorrow, Thursday 7 March 2013.

This version of YouTube has been built on HTML 5 platform, a first for any television platform and will be its very latest iteration offering a TV-optimised, visually stunning and fully interactive viewing experience.

40 Responses to “YouTube set to launch on freesat’s <free time> 7 March 2013”

  1. Derek (Original) Says:

    Admin, isn’t the title of this post a little misleading as it probably doesn’t apply to 95% of Freesat viewers. Please make at least one Humax Foxsat HDR user happy by including Freetime in the title ;-)

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  2. admin Says:

    Good point, done.

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  3. mikeypop Says:

    I’ve applied the software update – not immediately obvious where this new feature fits, but I guess will have to wait until tomorrow.

    Hope it isn’t hidden away in the portal bit!

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  4. Richard Crichton Says:

    Derek (Original) said:
    Admin, isn’t the title of this post a little misleading as it probably doesn’t apply to 95% of Freesat viewers. Please make at least one Humax Foxsat HDR user happy by including Freetime in the title

    More like 99% :-)

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  5. Derek (Original) Says:

    Richard Crichton said: More like 99%

    You’re probably right, 95% was just an educated guess!

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  6. Andy Says:

    Admin – can you pls remove post 6, it stripped out the word freetime as it probably thought it was an HTML tag so my sentence didn’t make sense then. Here it is again with the missing work:-

    I’m disappointed at the way Freesat seems to be going. The freetime idea, while not a bad one, is just repackaging of existing services and why anyone would want to view YouTube on their TV baffles me completely.

    Where are the genuinely useful innovations such as being able to stream content that you’ve recorded to other devices in your home? I’d buy new hardware in a heartbeat if they introduced services like that. These recent additions to the platform leave me cold, frankly.

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  7. Barrie Says:

    YouTube is a really good way of watching ‘lost’ documentaries and educational videos as well as music. C4 has placed a number of programs on Youtube and I’m sure there are others. These are of a much better quality than the rude tube type rubbish. If you join YouTube you can filter out the rubbish.
    I use Youtube via Wii or my Sony BluRay. The former is a much nicer and easier layout to use so I assume it will be for freetime.

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  8. Richard Crichton Says:

    Andy said:
    Admin – can you pls remove post 6, it stripped out the word freetime as it probably thought it was an HTML tag so my sentence didn’t make sense then. Here it is again with the missing work:-
    I’m disappointed at the way Freesat seems to be going. The freetime idea, while not a bad one, is just repackaging of existing services and why anyone would want to view YouTube on their TV baffles me completely.
    Where are the genuinely useful innovations such as being able to stream content that you’ve recorded to other devices in your home? I’d buy new hardware in a heartbeat if they introduced services like that. These recent additions to the platform leave me cold, frankly.

    YouTube on a TV is just as valid imho. I view YouTube on my TV fairly often via my Blu-Ray player app as well as AOL HD vids ( Excellent quality far better than 5SD ) but not everyone has a smart TV or Blu-ray player. The first of many more
    apps on Freetime hopefully.

    Off topic I read that by the end of 2014 there will be 14 HD channels on Freeview subject to Ofcom approval. Don’t know how true that is or where they will come from but how many will be on Freesat as well I wonder.

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  9. Andy Says:

    Fair point Barrie @ 7. Perhaps I’ve been sent too many round-robin e-mails with links to “cute cats” on YouTube or the kind of stuff you see on You’ve Been Framed which would hardly qualify as high quality drama.

    I still can’t help thinking that we risk pushing our excellent broadcast TV towards the lowest common denominator.

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  10. Barrie Says:

    I think YouTubes strengths are in education (how to do diy) or travelogues. I probably look up YouTube several times a month on how to do something, ranging from improving my swimming technique, boiler repair, wall tiling to ripping vinyl (just for example). Before going abroad recently I was able to review the resort and hotel by looking up on YouTube. Much easier than crowding around a pc!

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  11. Chris Says:

    @Andy #6: I agree – it might be coup to have the first HTML5 implementation of Youtube on Freesat, and I’m sure it looks very nice, but device manufacturers are falling over themselves to provide the same apps over and over again via all devices. I’ve now got Youtube and Netflix and Facebook and Flicker and iPlayer (etc etc) on my TV, my media player, my BD player, my computer, my tablet (etc etc). Like you, I’m still patiently waiting for a Freesat server that can stream live and recorded satellite TV around the house, it’s core functionality really, and I’m not likely to be able to get that functionality elsewhere – like on my TV, my media player, my BD player, my tablet – apart from a Freesat PVR. Has this requirement never been identified or thought about by any PVR manfacturers?

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  12. Lee S Says:

    I find YouTube is great for new music, recorded live music from my favourite artists and archived music videos. It should look fantastic on this app. Cant wait to use it.

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  13. Andy Says:

    Some good points raised here. That’s one of the things I like about the comments on this site, you feel like you can make your point and not be shot done in flames for saying it! Just get constructive comments. Anyway, I digress…

    I can see that there may very well be a reason for adding YouTube (and similar services) to Freesat, as Barrie suggests. However, I think Chris @ 11 has hit the nail on the head. The kind of thing I was suggesting (regarding streaming) is, as Chris put it, “core functionality” and these other extras are, perhaps, nice to have but hardly essential.

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  14. Keith (original) Says:

    Derek (Original) said: You’re probably right, 95% was just an educated guess!

    89.5% of statistics are made up on the spot. ;-)

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  15. Keith (original) Says:

    I would also like to add my agreement with Chris @11 & Andy @13.

    Streaming would also be a really great marketing coup for Freesat. Remember, for $ky extra subscriptions are required for each box, I believe.

    Streaming has been shown to be possible, at least in SD, even with the Foxsat-HDR, with hacks.

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  16. Bruce Says:

    May be you should change the name to Freestream instead of Freesat after all
    I purchased a freesat box to get statellite programmes if I want to steam programmes I can do that with my blu-ray player or PC
    People buying a Freestat box might not have a broadband connection
    I think you should concentrate on statellite channels
    I had my Foxsat-HDR for 12 months now and don’t see the point in having to buy another box to keep up with streaming from the internet

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  17. Neil Says:

    At least this won’t be arriving on Sky STB’s if it’s running HTML5. Sky don’t do anything other than OpenTV, even the beeb’s new MHEG enriched connected button service won’t be appearing either.

    I do hear it’s going to appear on youview and Freeview T2 STB’s but probably a while off yet.

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  18. Alison Fairgrieve Says:

    i agree with Barrie. I was delighted to find all sorts of educational things on YoutTbe when I ventured in and watch them on my desktop computer. However the ISDN broadband speed around here is either side of 2mbps.and streaming is jerky to say the least.
    It would be nice to see it on my bigger screen downstairs but I don’t quite understand how. My desktop is till connected with lots of wires. I have three SD boxes, being unable to afford HD ones.

    Seems that all sorts of new siuff is for well off geeks like Chris.

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  19. Keith (original) Says:

    Keith (original) said:
    I would also like to add my agreement with Chris @11 & Andy @13.
    Streaming would also be a really great marketing coup for Freesat.Remember, for $ky extra subscriptions are required for each box, I believe.
    Streaming has been shown to be possible, at least in SD, even with the Foxsat-HDR, with hacks.

    To clarify – I meant streaming of satellite channels and recorded programmes to other network connected TVs or other devices within the same household.

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  20. Marcus Says:

    I already can stream Freesat and recordings around the house. I can watch freesat on my ipad, my wife on her IPhone and all computers. I do it by using an elgato freesat tuner which sits on the network using eyetv software.

    The only downside is iPads and iPhones only stream live freesat in SD. Recordings though in HD. laptops etc stream the HD channels as well as recordings.

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  21. Mark Dyer Says:

    well i have searched my hdr from top to bottom, any idea when, or more importantly, where on the box youtube will ap;pear

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  22. kuergun Says:

    I wonder if the sex and violence we sometimes find on U tube will be controlled? Can people start to use it to promote their music bands or art work or any other business? What I know of U tube is when I’m on the net and want to find a political subject or in fact just about any subject U tube has the answer So my question is will it be the same type of U tube we have on the internet?

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  23. Chris Says:

    @Alison #18 and Bruce #16: I’m quite proud to be a geek actually! But I think you misunderstood that “streaming” in this context means the ability to use your *satellite*, Freesat box in other rooms of the house without wiring anything else from your dish into other rooms or installing more boxes into those rooms. It’s got nothing to do with ISDN, ADSL or broadband or whatever. My broadband is worse than yours – 0.7Mbps – that’s why I don’t use Youtube a lot and why I don’t need it on my Freesat box! You’re wanting exactly the same things as I do – satellite TV from a Freesat box without the use of the internet. I’ve not suggested anywhere that Freesat should be obtained via the internet, in fact I’ve said exactly the opposite.

    @Marcus #20: You don’t have an Elgato Freesat tuner, you have an Elgato FTA satellite tuner. I’ve been looking at one of those too, it would solve a certain amount of problems. However, it’s not a Freesat tuner – you don’t get the Freesat EPG and you don’t get automatic channel updating. You also need a PC up and running if you want to use it for recording. Also, are you able to stream from that to other TVs in the house, or as I suspect can you only stream to a PC, a tablet or a phone?

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  24. Chris Says:

    I don’t think anybody has mentioned broadband capacity – watching Youtube over Freesat won’t impact on your broadband allowance. Not an issue if you’re watching videos of cats falling off things, but if you want to watch music concerts or old TV shows, it could be a factor.

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  25. Chris Says:

    @Bruce #16: In fact you proved my point! “if I want to stream programmes I can do that with my blu-ray player or PC”. Exactly. You have all sorts of ways these days of streaming content from the internet, we don’t need them all replicated on Freesat boxes. I’d prefer Freesat to concentrate on the reception and recording and distribution of *satellite* TV.

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  26. Richard Crichton Says:

    Chris said:
    I don’t think anybody has mentioned broadband capacity – watching Youtube over Freesat won’t impact on your broadband allowance. Not an issue if you’re watching videos of cats falling off things, but if you want to watch music concerts or old TV shows, it could be a factor.

    It will impact your broadband allowance that is why people taking YouView from an ISP have to upgrade to unlimited data.

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  27. mikeypop Says:

    Just had a very brief play with this and I must say I’m quite impressed. Available under the “On Demand” page of the Home screen.

    Picture quality is good and the interface is nice. Best bit is that you can pair with a smartphone to control what you watch (eg, find the video you want on the youtube website on your phone/tablet and have it play directly on the TV – which obviously is better than searching with the remote).

    Only issue I saw was the I got a “loading” overlay flash up quite a bit on-top of the few videos I tested which was a bit annoying. We’re on pretty decent broadband that doesn’t usually have issues with streaming, so not sure what that was about.

    Overall a very decent addition…now just need the promised 4OD and demand5 updates!

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  28. Chris S Says:

    Oh…..

    I’ve just realised there are two Chris’s here! :-O

    I’m altering my name to Chris S on here….

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  29. Matthew Carrozo Says:

    We’ve just updated our website with a page about YouTube on – http://www.freesat.co.uk/youtube

    There’s some rather sexy pairing that can be done with a mobile device that makes it a real treat to use. You can also see a web-based version of the app on the Humax box here (and control it with your mobile in same way): https://www.youtube.com/tv#/browse

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  30. Andy Says:

    As I was partly to blame for this discussion diverting on to streaming, I think I should throw my hat into the ring again. Chris (without the S, or perhaps with the S – I’m confused) is quite right. We’re talking about streaming from our STB to other devices around the home – nothing to do with the internet, although it would probably involve using your home WiFi network. This may be to another STB in your house or to a smartphone or tablet. In other words some genuinely new and useful functionality.

    Nothing wrong with having YouTube on your telly. The link that Matthew @ 29 sent demonstrates that the interface is well thought out and I’m sure it’s just the start of this kind of initiative. However, speaking personally, I find all this a distraction and as one of the Chris’ rightly said it’s not dealing with what should be core functionality – viewing programs that are on broadcast television now or that you’ve recorded on devices around your home.

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  31. Glyn Says:

    Awesome…. controlling youtube and queuing videos from my mobile is the muts nuts! Saves faffing around with the remote spelling things out. Hope to see recording from the guide soon for Android.

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  32. Martin Says:

    All the ondemand services have disappeared from my freetime now got nought hope this is just a blip can anyone shed light on this thanks

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  33. Chris S Says:

    LOL I’m responsible for all the Chris posts on this thread apart from #24!

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  34. Keith (original) Says:

    Recently there has been a YouTube app released for the PS3. This also provides the same smartphone/tablet pairing functionality mentioned above. Appears to work well with good picture quality and no stuttering on the brief tests I did. Those who find YouTube useful, have a G1 box, but also have a connected PS3 might find this of interest.

    @25 Chris (S), recorded programmes can be streamed (within a home network) using other devices, but what I would like to see is the streaming of live satellite broadcast channels to other IP devices/TVs. For that a satellite receiver is required.

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  35. Chris S Says:

    @Keith (original): Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying (puzzled!) A Freesat PVR currently provides live TV, recording and playback on one TV only. A Freesat Server should provide live TV, recording and playback across all TVs in your house. Bruce’s point was that he can already stream things from the internet on other devices and making out that I’m suggesting Freeat should become an internet-streaming box. That’s not what we are saying here, we’re trying to say that streaming within the home is more relevant to Freesat boxes that streaming rfom the internet like Youtube.

    There’s lots of confusion here!

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  36. Martin Says:

    Just been browsing you tube on freesat freetime brilliant so far no interuptions fantastic love this free time box from humax haven’t been on freeviwe sinse I v had the box no doubt dave yesterday and quest is loosing out as more people might bye in to freesat absolutely love this box

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  37. Keith (original) Says:

    @35 Chris S. Err, sorry. I was meaning to back up that point and clarify that you and I were referring to different things from Bruce. I couldn’t have been concentrating sufficiently when I scrolled back up (iPad – limited screen-space) to see who I was addressing and took your comment out of context.

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  38. Marcus Says:

    @Marcus #20: You don’t have an Elgato Freesat tuner, you have an Elgato FTA satellite tuner. I’ve been looking at one of those too, it would solve a certain amount of problems. However, it’s not a Freesat tuner – you don’t get the Freesat EPG and you don’t get automatic channel updating. You also need a PC up and running if you want to use it for recording. Also, are you able to stream from that to other TVs in the house, or as I suspect can you only stream to a PC, a tablet or a phone?

    You suspect wrong, using a mac and an Apple TV and you can stream anything. So, you need a PC or mac or tablet or ipad or iPod touch up and running….wait don’t you need a set top box up and running. Also bear in mind once on a mac or pc you can then stream that to your i device, try that on a set top box, I have three so I know.

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  39. Chris S Says:

    It still stands that it’s not a Freesat tuner and you need a computer on!

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  40. Keith (original) Says:

    Just out if curiousity (since I only have a G1 box) – did it (launch)? How does it compare to the PS3 app?

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